Introducing BBS, our new forums

Hey, neat, looks like flagging works!

We will get you sorted.

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It varies from community to community, but I found Boing Boing’s to be mostly good. The good folks far outweighed the bad. I’m sure we owe that to exhaustive work of moderators too.

I think the ratio of quality discussion here to people able to participate easily is a bit out of whack. In my private fantasy land’s version of Boing Boing, BBS would be a new feature but not replacing disqus. It sort of defeats the purpose of story commentary if it’s not right there.

Different strokes for different folks I guess. (it took a couple minutes to figure out how to even reply, btw… I’m sure that comes with familiarity, but the system seems pretty unorganized… or TOO flexible or something, if that makes sense)

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Because I can’t see at a glance if there is a interesting discussion going on, a discussion I want to join. All I can see now are some moderated comments that possibly misrepresent the “gist” of the other comments.

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Would that be fixed by having the ‘full text of’ posts as thread starters instead of excerpts? Then you (and other users who are in it for the discussions) could use the forums to read BB generally and just dip into the main BB site for fancy features and the like.

If a band’s Greatest Hits album isn’t enough for you to tell if they’re interesting or not, what is?

That is the intent, to take just the “greatest hits” from each community BBS topic over to the editorial side.

In other words, I hope you guys all like Cheeseburger In Paradise a lot.

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The full text of the original article as the first post of a thread? Hmm never thought of that. Seems like a reasonable compromise. It would work even better if the BBS topics belonging to a BB article would have some sort of sub-header/short excerpt (like google news).

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The problem with the greatest hits approach is that what you/me/the algorithm think is interesting probably isn’t interesting to others and stopping them from joining in. Sometimes it’s some obscure comment that opens up a new avenue of discussion.

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If you want deep tracks, click through for the rest of the album.

I would probably click through for the rest anyway but will the casual listener/reader?

I agree. I know that you can click the “replies” at the bottom of a post (kind of hard to see), but doing this as you scroll through the comments can result in reading the same comment over and over again.

Side note: Pleased that I accidentally discovered how to quote reply => highlight the text you want to quote and a quote-reply button just appears. I think that I may be overly excited about this feature.

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… and we need a “sort by date” option for this.

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FIRST POST! (Well, my first post anyway.)

More thoughts on the commenting system:

Being able to click on the “# replies” and then not being able to interact immediately with those replies seems kind of useless.

I dislike that replying to someone sends you to the bottom of the comments and reloads the page with a different URL. So right now I see “forums/327/#”. I cannot figure out exactly what the 327 is supposed to refer to (remove it and it just reappears). And oh dear god the second number changes as I scroll through the comments!

Why does the “link to this post” link include my username? How is that useful?

Do we really need to get notifications every time we like something?

Overall I think I agree with other people that one of the reasons why I read boingboing is because of the discussion. It is a bit awkward having to click from my RSS feed to something else to read the discussions. I also highly doubt that I will ever bother to read the “notable replies” … not so useful when they are taken out of context to the rest of the discussion.

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That’s kind of the issue, though: I already know I like the band. The completionist in me recoils at reading an arbitrary out-of-order, out-of-context selection of the comments instead of the actual conversation.

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No, he couldn’t figure out how to switch over from Disqus so he’s gone.

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OK, I signed up for Gravatar, updated Adobe and Java, created my new Wordpress account, got the free McAfee update, downloaded the Bing toolbar addition, seven other toolbars, bought a magnifying glass for my Iphone, sent in the blood samples, read the terms of service and the instructions on how the Discourse system works, signed up for Discourse, read the little pop-up window that instructs me to comment only if it improves the conversation, provides constructive criticism and is kind to my fellow community members, took a philosophy class, researched the name Antonius to try and provide insight on what the moderator’s specific personality will consider “improvement”, changed my name, pissed my pants, came to terms with everything and shed a few tears.

Can’t remember what I was gonna say though.

EDIT: Oh yeah, that’s right, why can’t we “like” replies to comments? That seems weird.

EDIT: Oh, no, I found it. Didn’t realize it was just giving additional options on “original” comments with the “like it too” option as opposed to the little heart.

You know what I really like about this system?: It’s so streamlined and easy to use.

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Just poppin’ in to make sure everything’s okay.

Yep, looks good in here.

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Just seeing what happens when I do this.

Aaaand I’m still not quite sure. I think I used to log in via Twitter (“writebastard” is my Twitter handle), but was displayed on the forum as “Ian Wood.” I went to Preferences to change my User Name to “IanWood” but was frightened off by the Are you sure you want to do this? question.

Hrrrm. It’s late.