Pretty thorough early analysis of the onrushing shitstorm. Not very optimistic, I am afraid.
Look at you, believing whatever the US government tells you is a fact…
yeah. Seriously.
And Kissinger is a war criminal who walks among us…
As if that’s objective…
I don’t see why we got to assassinate ANYONE in ANY country. Ever. The only reason we do this is to preserve empire. That’s it. We don’t actually give a shit about the well fare of anyone who lives there. These acts of endlessly intervening in the affairs of other countries has never ended well. We’re in the middle of a constitutional crisis and still pushing on with the empire. No wonder we’re so fucked here.
What would be a proportional asymmetric Iranian response? Taking out Trump Jr.?
Rent to own nukes from North Korea?
It’s going to get messy.
The United States is a white supremacist evangelical terrorist state with an unprecedented body count over its short existence and is now gearing up to make the mountain of bodies ten feet higher. What you do now is what will be written in history books (if we’re so lucky) about the population of the greatest terror on the planet Earth.
Look up the protests happening on Saturday. That is the very start of what needs to happen.
ETA: Also, be considerate and spare talking about the draft or reprisal, because no matter what happens to us, this is quite certainly going to lead to the murder of many, many Iraqis and Iranians.
As always, the answer is “Nope.”
Look to our leaders, put in place against the popular vote, to cast insults such as these, not the people of the country, who didn’t choose these actions.
You can taste the safeness.
The largest US Embassy on the planet and they are evacuating. Sounds pretty damn weak to me.
Order 66 on US tropps in Iraq. If I was a soldier down there I would be really nervous about my Iraqi “allies” right now. This wasn’t just an attack on Iran, it was also an attack on an invited guest of the Iraqi government.
No, every citizen that writes off the revolutionary left while voting for the same cast of monsters every couple of years and insisting that’s the entire scope of representation we can hope for is complicit. The propaganda here is effective, but we all own that and have to do something about it. If you are not organizing to shut this shit down or helping others organize, you are part of the problem.
Leaders, not people define the state. Iranians don’t choose the actions of their government too, but it’s hard to dispute that it’s a brutal theocracy. Here’s how the Iranian government deals with dissent:
Knowing how US deals with people of color, in my opinion it completely meets definition of white supremacist state, even if majority of population would oppose white supremacy.
It’s nice of you to arrive here and cast these accusations, making everyday Americans “complicit” in the actions of a leader we cannot possibly disagree with more.
This isn’t helpful. You aren’t being helpful. You’re distracting from the issue by casting blame around. You’re derailing the topic and driving trollies.
Those who don’t do anything despite having means to act are complicit. Even making a donation to a campaign of progressive politician helps.
Maybe some are secretly comfortable with status quo and the privilege it grants them?
I am an everyday American, and technically a Democratic voter, before I was organizing actively as a leftist, yes, I was complicit. That doesn’t mean I get the wall, but I own that I was enabling this system by continuing to try to legitimize it as the only option.
You say these are the actions of a leader we cannot possibly disagree with more, yet we have done the same kind of shit under Obama, Clinton, and pretty much any other leader you care to name. The complicity is in legitimizing the Democrats as the only means of “resisting” fascism and atrocities, when in reality they have been actively helping it along.
Even now you are trying to write my condemnation of the whole system off as entirely outside the scope of discussion, limiting what I can talk about without “trolling” to “gosh, hope we vote a Democrat in next time”. FUCK THAT.
This is the time for revolutionary defeatism. You live in a state that has been effectively a terrorist organization for its entire existence (ask indigenous people, black Americans, Venezuelans, Bolivians, Chileans, Argentinians, Palestinians, Philippians, survivors of our fucking nuclear attacks and tests), you have a duty to humanity to do something about it besides say “I dIdN’t VoTe fOr HiM!”
ETA: I would recommend “Wretched of the Earth” by Frantz Fanon to anyone looking for some kind of theoretical backing to this whole stance. Dude is much smarter than me. Marx Madness reads and discusses that book too if that’s more your style (that’s how I went about it).
Which, I’m compelled to point out, was the last time the US issued a formal declaration of war.
Ah, it’s the “all or nothing” purity test some of the Internet is so fond of these days. If you associate with anyone who has ever said something problematic, you too are now unclean unless you publicly distance yourself. As an American we are all guilty by association
Well that’s the problem with America. Everyone is all casual now. Walking around in Crocs and shorts. Polos and khakis in the office instead of suits and ties. Pant suits??? No one wants to be married, just live with their “partner”. “Thanks” in an email instead of writing a card. Make acts of aggression with out actual declarations. We keep it all loosy goosy now.
I know you deleted your comment and presumably don’t stand by it, but I also get the frustration and anger and wanted to respond honestly.
Find and support local socialists or militant anti-war activists if you can – there are radical groups like willing to do direct action to jam up the gears. If no one else does, I think I’ll start a thread where we can aggregate local and national orgs like that. Building up the workers movements to a point where we can do a general strike would also be very powerful.
I won’t lie, we are in a bad position right now as the left. But we have to start somewhere or there simply is no hope of ever stopping this.
ETA: Here is one of the organization coordinating the demonstrations on Saturday: https://www.answercoalition.org/national_action_us_troops_out_of_iraq
ETAA: Cool, so the comment I made outlining how exactly we are complicit as actors and not just passive observers of this event was flagged as off-topic for this thread about the event. Stay classy neoliberals. To reiterate the source that got caught in that, I would recommend “Wretched of the Earth” by Frantz Fanon to anyone looking for some kind of theoretical backing to this whole stance. Dude is much smarter than me. Marx Madness reads and discusses that book too if that’s more your style (that’s how I went about it).