Is China's social credit system becoming a Black Mirror episode?

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Yes. It’s the first thing that popped in my head when I read about it.

Speaking about Black Mirror… Mechanical bees on Mars:


Coming, soon, to a neighborhood near you.


Jesus, this lady is a nightmare. Only the guy who looks like a Kim Jong Un impersonator seems to have a lick of healthy suspicion. What the hell!?!


In the US we call it “credit rating”


The Chinese follow the rules and never question why the rules are there. This system fits right into that mentality.

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…Or is it becoming a Cory Doctorow’s book ? (a great one, besides)


Voluntary self-enslavement isn’t pretty to watch… tyranny 24/7/365 Big Xi is always watching. Runaway, runaway, runaway. The China Dream [TM] doesn’t not include not being spied on, does not include freedom of thought, expression, or association. it’s only a matter of time until the repression worsens.

Interesting piece about boiling to death slowly in water. I would’ve liked to see more variety in the socioeconomic spectrum of who they interviewed. I would bet that a migrant construction worker would have different insight as to how such a system functions on the negative side of the technology utopia. Similarly, people in a variety of political spectrum, but I get that they likely had to get permission and after all, interviewing and getting too deep into this might negatively effect their credit.



“But I think it’s okay if my score is connected to my friends scores. This could peer pressure people into behaving a certain way in real life. People will be on their best behavior because other people will find out. It’s like a monitor for ones social life, which I think is fine”

I don’t know if it’s all in the editing, but the jaywalking guy sounds obsessive.

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We need that in the USA, um, well maybe not…

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More like an episode of The Orville perhaps?


The most disturbing part of this was seeing educated and cosmopolitan urbanites choosing to buy into such a horrible system (or at least resigning themselves to it). While China is – for historical and cultural reasons – more primed to put this rating system in place now, I wonder if the interviews in Union Square will be a whole lot different when the big tech companies and the U.S. government try to put something similar in place here around 2025.

It’s not simply a matter of economic class, so I would guess that an adult’s acceptance of a social credit system correlates closely with his watching reality television on a regular basis.


It’s sooo easy to troll on the Chinese… Remind me, Who has a privatized prison system AND the largest prison population in the world by a multiple factor?


Oy. I didn’t hear one reasonable argument in favor of it. Unless blind devotion to the following of rules is paramount. Which it seems to be for most of these folks.

I remember first reading that and thinking what a neat idea whuffie would be in a post-scarcity economy but now it feels like a dystopian nightmare when we know how governments would use it. China is just ahead of the curve, we’ll all be getting citizen scores built on some sort of franken-facebook architecture.


Just another rod for their back. The Chinese have made a big deal about lifting people out of poverty. Now they can work on raising people from the murk of a poor social credit score - perhaps they can send them off to re-education camps?

Why so many in nodding agreement? - well, the Party has a lot of members.

We all live in Cambridge now.

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