ISIS/Daesh threaten Washington D.C. and New York City in new online videos

I still like John Oliver’s preferred nomenclature:

#Gigantic Fucking Arseholes threaten Washington D.C. and New York City in new online videos.

And look, someone’s already made a flag for them:


About the ISIS/DAESH discussion I have come to a logical conclusion:

I will call them “motherfuckers”, or “bastards” if that day I’m particularly angry.

Now, all we need is a plug-in to automatically change names in our browsers


This lovely chap beat him to the punch:


I know, right?


I hope a substantial portion of readers here watch your linked vid. It’s excellent. This guy talks like the (extremely smart) Muslims I know.

From the vid:

It can’t be! Whatever is religion to us are simply ideological views to non-believers. Accept that. Digest that.

You do not have the right to impose ANY one-sided view, in any way!


Yeah, I think this is one thing we can do if we clearly separate groups like this from Islam. It’s not that their actions are completely unprecedented, but what attracts people to these groups is not so much deep knowledge and belief in Islam, but current events that are interpreted in the light of a specific version of Islam. There are many Protestants who respect Martin Luther, but they manage to separate parts of thinking that they admire from On the Jews and their Lies, or from many of the objectionable parts of the Bible. Many Americans are evangelical, but they don’t burn witches. It’s not that the ingredients for extremism don’t exist outside of the context of modern day events, but there are good reasons why modern day Afghanistan, Syria, Iran and Egypt have more extreme versions of Islam now, while a few decades ago they had women walking around like this (n.b. I’m not disagreeing with you, it’s just good to remember that these photos exist):

(University of Kabul, 1980s)

(University of Tehran, 1970s)

(This magazine cover of Egyptian actress Shadia in 1961 after a trip to Tokyo has her boldly declaring that Japan does not respect women.)

(Egyptian women at a political rally in Assiut, Egypt.)

(Cairo swimsuit competition, 1948)

(Baghdad, 1970s)

(University of Beerzeit in Palestine,1967)

(In the early ‘70’s, Homs native Silvana Shaheen scored the Syrian national prize for both 400m and 100m hurdles multiple times.)

(Iraqi students in the 1970s)

(Khadija al Jaahmey leads women on a protest in Tripoli to support a Royal Declaration in 1963, which gave women the right to not only vote but to also run for political office.)
(Mujahideen, not Taliban. Notice that the Mujahideen brought a woman to the White House wearing a headscarf that was not covering the front of her hair)

Incidentally, Reagan also dedicated the March 22, 1985 launch of space shuttle Colombia to the Afghan people, saying that “the struggle of the Afghan people represents man’s highest aspirations for freedom”.


Another man in this video, identified as Al Karrar the Iraqi, tells French President Francois Hollande the terrorists will “negotiate with you in the trenches and not in the hotels.”

Try as they might, they’re compromising with modernity. For instance, they’ve already given up horses for trench warfare.

“You undertake Jihad in the camo you have, not the camo you might want or wish to have at a later time.”

Donald “Muhhamed” Al-Rumsfeld


Aside from the whole ‘looming threat of thermonuclear apocalypse’ thing, perhaps the most depressing feature of the Cold War was the quality of the ‘friends’ we made in an attempt to win it. Not all of them were awful; but we sure didn’t care much one way or the other.


Well, I guess if they attacked Times Square, no actual New Yorkers would be hurt…


Honestly though, these assholes are our favourite kind of opponents. It’s easy to imagine that they represent some kind of existential threat. I mean, they told us as much themselves. They don’t share our motivations. We don’t understand them. They’re comfortingly foreign. They won’t be happy with any peace talks, but talk in terms of the domination of their ideology over our own. It’s not even worth talking with them as they’re basically savages. They also represent an enemy inside, so mistrust and mass surveillance are justified - more than that, they’re a patriotic obligation. They’re almost too conveniently black to counter the whiteness of our own actions. It’s back to the good old days.


Aside from the whole ‘looming threat of thermonuclear apocalypse’ thing, perhaps the most depressing feature of the Cold War was the quality of the ‘friends’ we made in an attempt to win it. Not all of them were awful; but we sure didn’t care much one way or the other.

If you look at the whole roster of “Anti-Communists” (not counting the ones who calculated that they had to go with the flow or drowned), you see that none of them actually believed in liberal democracy. Authoritarians to the last one, they might be partially excused for believing that an iron-fisted totalitarian State would outcompete America and other free countries on any remotely level playing field.

So allying with more or less fascists was just a matter of “hang together or all hang separately.” The thought of pointing out to (e.g.) people in Latin America that the US Founders were way more radical than the graduates of Stalin’s graduate program for revolutionaries simply made no sense to them.

My family in Brooklyn will stab them in the face with a tire iron, bet on it.


Rainbow Daesh?


That headline seems to be putting words in the mouth of France’s foreign minister; he contends that the label ‘ISIS’ risks a damaging conflation with Islam as a whole, whereas ‘Daesh’ singles out this group to the satisfaction of everyone (except Daesh, of course).

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If you’re feeling literal, “childfuckers” would work, too.


I guess it might if you don’t speak Arabic or check the meaning of the word, but both terms mean roughly the same thing (and specifically refer to Islam) and neither is ambiguous with regard to other organisations. I would like to see a different name, but that’s what they call themselves and I don’t mind referring to them with that name while being clear that I think they’re a bunch of murderous assholes who do not represent Islam, states, Syria or the Levant.


this explains why it’s good to use:

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If they like the name ISIS, let’s call them SISI.

If they are actually the 14-year-old trolls they are purported to be, that ought to piss them off plenty.

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