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Am I misunderstanding? You seem to say that you canāt eat a piece of meat or a green vegetable without vomiting, and also saying that nobody else can either, and also saying this is so obvious it canāt be questioned.
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donāt eat any seems like a very b/w situation. The way I figure it, there are carbs in steak. Not many, not much, but also not none. The right balance, in fact.
re: āāsuicidalāā - Itā s a word Iāve always taken to be very much about the person speaking it. So anyone who uses the word is talking about their own self. Even if itās to empathize with you, itās a word about self. In the shoes of someone taking action X, that would be suicidal (of me).
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seriously, help me out. Where is this second part? I might have missed it.
Yes, but you have to put the butter on the bacon.
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That was the baffling part. With ten or so people saying this diet did great things for them, she seems to be saying that nobody can tolerate it.
For the record, I had great success for six months with Atkins, and Iām thinking of going back to it. Never vomited a bit, but I did get really bored.
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the words I read seem to be her asking āwhy anyone elseās stomach would behaveā¦ than mineā. I do not get where you are seeing that she is āsaying that nobody (else) can tolerate itā. Could you narrow that down to the key sentence or phrase? I am just not parsing it that way yet. Iāll try, but be a little more specific about what -she- said, and less about how you chose to interpret it? Because I really think you misunderstood a bit.
I believe what you think is āno carbā is often āeffectively no carbā, while i a scientific literal sense, you could find carbs in there on the molecular level. A trace. Steak is not ācarb-freeā - there re not zero (in the absolute absence sense) carbs in a steak. There are a trivial, inconsequential amount, yes.
If you ate pure protien, pure fat, even pure waterā¦,. your body would not know what to do. 100% protein would be hard to keep down and the mouth/alimentary canal would not recognize it as food. I believe that is accurate and is how i parse it. I do not see any indication that a very very very low carb diet would be bad for you as what was being communicated. Take this with a grain of salt, but maybe youāre defensive and seeing something where it isnāt. Because all I see between the lines is someone a bit exasperated with being misinterpreted, by you and others.
Well thatās great. For you. Not joking. Eating healthy is awesome. Weāre not all the exact same in terms of what that means, but it is a wonderful thing that youāve nailed it down for yourself!
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No itās 78,5% fat(yep, almost 80% calories from fat) diet 
Most recipes for this diet include bacon, butter, yolk and lard.
Info in English:
http://www.homodiet.co.za/
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I know a restaurant that takes bacon, dips in pancake batter and fries it upā¦ Iād try it, but the same restaurant also makes sweet potato beignetsā¦
Well, in my experience, many green vegetables are edible on their own, but meat is not edible on its own.
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Now that sounds like the right amount of the right fats, proteins and carbs!
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Can I just add a 1/2lb of noodles (any kind) to that plate? That looks fantastic!
(I think I would starve to death if I cut out carbs, easily 1/2 my calories is carbs)
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You know what, I think you can. Iāll call it the ālook fantastic dietā (patent pending). Could do a lot worse!
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Ahā¦ yes, the beer. Its my krypotnite.
I have had great success with the high-fat, low carb dietā¦ but the beerā¦ the beer, she calls to me.
Sounds like a ketogenic diet to me. Sounds similar to what I eat, in fact.
Where were you bunch of adventurous dieter types last time I tried to communicate something including the dread word paleo around here, only to be shouted down by merciless āWOO WOOā-sounding sirens? Have people actually started reading and (the horror) trying things before forming strong opinions?
Nothing new here. We used this diet way back in the '60s. It works, like all diets by decreasing the amount of calories consumed daily relative to those burned. The ketogenic diet also was (is?) used to treat some seizure disorders.
I though low carb diets in general worked mainly by toning down the insulin-related hormonal problems caused by excess refined carbs in our ānormalā diets (as described by Gary Taubes, et al) first and by virtue of being lower-calorie (via decreased hunger and other physiological effects) second?
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the ketogenic diet is the best thing Iāve ever done for my health. Lost a ton of weight, reversed pre-diabetes, stable blood sugar, increased energy, etc. It has improved my health in every possible way and iāve always been a healthy eater even before switching to a ketogenic version of the paleo diet.
tip: once you achieve ketosis, you can eat a moderate amount of safe starches and carbs on occasion and maintain ketosis as long as you also consume MCT oil along with the carbs. I now eat potatoes, rice, plantains, or squash, 2-3 times a week with my dinner, and never leave ketosis (i have both pee strips and a blood tester).
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most people consume more calories on a ketogenic diet, not less. I lost 30lbs of excess weight in 3 months on a higher calorie diet and gained muscle mass.
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