This was a joke. The woman herself has said this. Where is the sense of humor here? Is it overridden by a desperate need to be social justice warriors?
One post is ridiculing a religious family for shouting in a Target about homosexuals, and on the other hand, BoingBoing is shouting Slut Shaming for a joke that two coworkers played on the air?
To me this is the same sort of over-the-top preachiness that I despise.
I just said this the other day in another thread, but âYou canât take a jokeâ always translates to âI canât make a joke.â
Maybe we can think about the incident and about ourselves, think about times we may have been treated disrespectfully in front of work colleagues (let alone on live TV) or times when we may have been disrespectful to someone else, and consider how we can keep respect for others in mind as we go through our day. Maybe if everyone involved is okay with the incident, they ought to all think about why it went viral, why it struck a chord with people.
And then, letâs have a few random hangings.
Thatâs the central thesis of the anti-PC movement.
Something can be an illustration of a problem in society even if none of the parties involved meant to illustrate anything.
I hear other people complain about not having enough likes for the day. Iâd be fine with just a few likes a day if I was allowed to give them all to one post.
Obviously this âjokeâ made a lot of people uncomfortable, probably because they have had similar experiences of co-workers treating them badly in the past. But if it was meant as a joke then what should they do, say, âOh, I guess it didnât remind me of the shitty, sexist culture we live in after all?â
If you do something that upsets people, why not say, âOh, I can see how that would be upsetting, sorry about thatâ? Why not listen to what they have to say instead of trying to think of an excuse why you shouldnât have to listen?
All this talk about KTLA being goofy and whatnot really bugs me. We used to watch them in the early/mid nineties because our neighbor at the time was the on-air helicopter camera person. And yes, while they tried to work this goofy vibe, it was always one older male host and several younger female co-hosts who fawned on his every âjoke.â It became kind of cringe-worthy creepy.
Apparently that is a taboo term here. It is the first thing that came to mind. First time Iâve used that phrase. Articles like this are probably the reason it exists.
The problem here is that when people are super trigger happy to jump on anything as injustice, it devalues the movement, and makes it easy for folks to dismiss legitimate grievances using phrases like SJW.
There are real, heinous cases of people being shamed for their sexuality. This news crewsâ attempt at a joke is not one of them. This headline really hurts the cause IMO.
Iâm still most impressed by the lack of sense of humor. Comedy is actually an important tool for social commentary. There will always be hypersensitive folks freaking out about their pet beliefs (religious, social, etc) online. I just expected more from BoingBoing. I think it is kinda brilliant how the news crew used this technique to underhandedly skewer their viewers who were complaining via email about her dress.
This reminds me of hyperbole about christians being persecuted in this country. No, you are not being persecuted because someone said Happy Holidays. No this woman, who herself was in on the joke, is not being âSlut Shamedâ, IMHO.
You expected us not to think critically for ourselves? To let others tell us what is a joke, and what is serious?
You seriously expected that?!?!?
I am offended.
No, really â I am offended that you think so little of us, that we should be mindless, silent sheep that do not discuss anything expect in positive manners (comma, comedy of).
You cannot humbly end 5 paragraphs with âIMHOâ and expect (no matter how little you expect) people to believe you.
If you were truly humble, you wouldnât have five paragraphs telling us how disappointed you were in our non-quietude.
WE DO NOT GO GENTLE INTO THAT GOOD NIGHT
WE RAGE RAGE AGAINST THE DYING OF THE LIGHT
No, itâs not a taboo. Call it more a âbadge of affiliation.â When someone says, âThatâs not a cool thing to say,â and your response is âWell, thank you for telling me how to speak, you Social Justice Warrior, you,â then it speaks to the kind of person you are â that some people are allowed to say what they wish, but other people are not allowed to speak critically about that speech.
Be careful when you appropriate a term from someone; it may mark you as a member of the same group.
Because labelling all of the people you disagree with with a sarcastic term is a good way to convince them that youâre right!
There is unjustified outrage? On the Internet?
If a movement or organization has a leader, then that movement and that leader should either denounce any bad behaviour of their followers, or be held accountable for it.
For a decentralized movement (Occupy Wall Street, the Tea Party), you canât hold the whole movement, or its members, responsible for the actions of its most enthusiastic members. This is doubly the case when the movement in question is not recognized by its purported members (like the âSJWsâ).
Agreed.
Mostly agreed. If it had involved a snow suit and had not been sprung on the woman while she was on the air (that is, if they had made it clear it was a joke at the time), then certainly.
When I was at University, I heard a joke that I found hilarious. It was a Holocaust joke, and very dark, but it was âpunchingâ at the Germans, not the Jews, so I didnât think there was anything wrong with it.
One day, I told that joke to the granddaughter of a Jewish Holocaust survivor. She immediately called me out on my joke. I then remembered that my grandfather had been in a concentration camp, though not Jewish, and was quite ashamed for ever telling the joke, for ever finding it amusing.
From time to time (like today), Iâm reminded of the joke, and I still can see why the joke is humorous. However, I think of how my grandfather might react to that joke, and I get sick to my stomach just thinking of what he went through, what that joke might trigger. That joke is not appropriate to tell, ever, which is why I am only alluding to it in the vaguest terms.
Women are constantly told what to wear, what not to wear, that they have to look perfect, yet remain modest, that they have to be thin, but not anorexic. There is an almost obsessive fascination with how any woman looks. Iâm not convinced that she found it funny when it happened - if I had been told, repeatedly, that I was unworthy because I didnât look good enough, or I was unworthy because my good looks had allowed me to glide through life without working, Iâd be awfully sensitive to jokes about it.
And it works best when the jokes are funny.
Would you say that you are disappointed in Boing Boing?
ETA: Dammit. Iâve been having problems connecting this evening, and @ficuswhisperer beat me to it.
As I said, a snow suit would have been skewering them amusingly. A sweater just made it look like they were capitulating.
Itâs very hard for the people in charge to be persecuted. Women in this society, unfortunately, donât fall into that category.
I was surprised since I hadnât seen any of the emails and didnât think there was anything that inappropriate (the beads/sequins were probably a little much for the morning, but what girl doesnât like something that sparkles?!), so I played along and put on the sweater.
That doesnât sound like she was in on the joke.
Itâs nice that you have a humble opinion. What makes it less humble is when you tell everyone else that their opinion is wrong.