Lavabit's owner threatened with arrested for shutting down rather than spying on customers

Consider a single stream of binary data, available to all. Readers attempt to decrypt the stream using their own private keys. Addressing information is thus encrypted and meta data on messages is useless because the recipient can not be identified.

But internet backbones typically travel through the US, and the US does deals with friendly countries to tap their applications and backbones. That doesn’t leave much.

Scaring and threatening people/companies into complying with demands sound a lot like terrorism to me.

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OK, I donated. If anything happens to me I’ll report back no matter what they tell me.

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The EU is pretty strict on data protection laws. Admittedly they also do plenty of snooping, but I doubt they can enforce the kind of double gag orders that the US uses.

It matters a lot where you are, of course. The UK is obviously unsafe, but some other countries should be good enough. And perhaps somewhere just outside the EU, like Iceland or Switzerland, would be even better.

You’ve already said too much. They now have pre-emptive NSLs.

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Bueller?.. Bueller?.. Bueller?

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Clearly they do have something to hide or this would not be secret, gagged, and redacted!

Turn the question, “If you have nothing to hide, then don’t make this secret, gagged, and redacted!”

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When you have to start spying for the government, they are attempting to force you to work for them for free.

How does this work in light of healthcare and labor laws? If you do it for more then the minimum hours, doesn’t the government then have to provide health care benefits under new obamacare law? Don’t they need to pay minimum wage? Or is it just enslavement?

When the government exempts working for the them from the labor laws, use this precedent to cease paying those working for the government. Instead, they should be made to work for free.

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I believe there is a standard rate card associated with wiretaps. And frequently, the NSA will supply a box that you are directed to install. Aside from being told not to touch the box, your techs don’t have any responsibilities–something about not being cleared.

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You are not addressing my main point that controlling exit nodes, even if true, does not, for most purposes, nullify tor’s effectiveness.

And yes, hidden services are not exit nodes. However, if governments did control most exit nodes, it would make the job of uncovering hidden services quite a bit easier (depending on how the hidden services are configured). And to date, the ONLY hidden service that has been discovered is the recent kiddie porn scumbag, and that’s because he wasn’t hiding his identity.

Very true. I have not followed the Freedom Hosting case, exactly - but I wouldn’t be surprised if they caught the main guy using purely wetware means.
The best encryption is worth jack shit if you boast about your misdeeds on insecure channels.

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I remember a time when things like: US government whistleblowers seeking asylum in Russia; mass surveillance of all communications on the planet; and Congress members openly musing about prosecuting journalists for writing about leaks, were considered ‘over the top’ as well. But here we are.

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The third thing has been done all the way back to at least world war one. I remember seeing propaganda posters in ww1 and ww2 stating that “talking about troop movements when on leave” is treason. We imprisoned a large number of our own for violations of that law, and threatened many with shooting. Lots of drumhead court martials.

In 1917, Robert Goldstein was sentenced to ten years in prison for producing a film “The Spirit of '76”, because it was anti-British.

New York Times article on the 1921 revival

I had to look at your link, and want to clarify some points for people that might not catch them:

Robert Goldstein was sentenced to ten years in prison for violations of the espionage act IN THE US because the film MIGHT have caused the Brits to not like us and MIGHT have caused our own soldiers to have doubts on the morality of war.

Just had to clarify that it wasn’t Britain that jailed him. It was the US. In 1917, because they thought he was “hurting the war effort.”

Anyone who thinks we have less freedom now needs to take a look at all the cases in 1917 or so that involved the broad application of the espionage act. Many people here on Boing Boing would be in prison already for that.

Ladies and Gentlemen, The Great Republic Experiment has reached it’s conclusion. The Republic is dead. It died in a secret court. It’s final words are sealed in a secret envelope. The public will not be informed of this decision.

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