Or Genesis 3:25-27:
25 And the lord spake unto the Angel that guarded the eastern gate, saying Where is the flaming sword which was given unto thee?
26 And the Angel said, I had it here only a moment ago, I must have put it down some where, forget my own head next.
27 And the Lord did not ask him again.
The best part of those quotes from Good Omens, IMO, is that Neil Gaiman is Jewish, knows all of the jokes to make and how to make them, and has had occasion to deliver a smackdown on being Jewish:
porter-gembling-blog asked: You mentioned you like Stephen Fry! Be wary, he is a Yid and he is only friends with you to extract wealth, which is the primary objective of a Jew. He may seem nice to you but in reality all he wants is more sympathisers and your money. You can’t trust a Jew as far as you throw it. No need to thank me, education on them should be mandatory not volentery. Dirty, evil creatures. Keep up the good work with the books.
Neil-gaiman answered: Look, this is a bit embarrassing, but I’m afraid that I’m a fully-paid-up honest-to-goodness barmitzvahed-and-circumcised Jew myself. And while I would, of course, like sympathisers and money, I most certainly do not want yours.
Also, it’s spelled ‘voluntary’.
C of E doctrine is the kind of thing that would mark you out as a Dangerous Leftist these days. Even to, say, the PLP.
That’s just the mainstream C of E. I was more in the David Jenkins wing when I believed, which would probably get me burned at the stake by the evangelicals.
I had success with one Trump voter.
I used popcorn kernels and a few bowls to visualize the relative differences in wealth between them (middle class senior technician type), illegal immigrants, the 1%, and the Trumps of the world. We had a lot of time so filling a bunch of bowls with one kernel being about $100K, google to fact check, etc. let me show how little the richest actually give to the world for what they take and show how things that take his money get recirculated while it doesn’t for the richest. It isn’t even something I recommend (it was basically an afternoon to convince one family member who was already pulling away from Trump), but it did work for now. We’ll see if it sticks with him.
I have a pet theory that the Western idea of the potential for eternal damnation is the root cause of why the West is so much better at risk management than the East.
You should make that into a YouTube video.
“Treat Trump voters like a friend whose boyfriend is a jerk” N. Pelosi
Good advice for everyone
…or you could treat them as vicious arseholes who chose to actively attack the lives and liberty of Americans of colour, the military security of the world and the survivability of the planetary ecosystem.
Treating Trumpeters as misguided friends to be coaxed back to reason is a luxury indulged in by those with sufficient privilege to guard them from danger. To the people on the ground, the threat is immediate.
Actually defeating Trump requires the involvement of non-voters. The established Dems hate this idea, because the only way to get those people involved is to actually resist the donor class. Hence, the continued push to find some way to compromise with TrumpGOP and rebuild the status quo; they’ll happily accept fascism-lite with slightly more competence and restraint.
Pelosi is certainly a card carrying member of that class. Hey we’re all trying to find some way to talk to these folks. She has her opinion we have ours. In my opinion she should not be there for the reasons you have pointed out. New blood is required.
It really disappoints me that CA elects such dismal politicians. They should be able to do better than Pelosi or Feinstein. I can understand why you have to accept blue-dog DINOs to win in West Virginia or Missouri or wherever, but not San Francisco, surely?
I guess it’s about fundraising clout more than anything.
For those still on FB and are scared to dip your toes in the other pool well here’s one way how:
https://www.escapeyourbubble.com/
I’ve never subscribed to FB and never will so let me / us know if it’s worthwhile.
That quiz is remarkably one sided. I guess there’s only one kind of bubble.
(I got a low score and I suspect I only got as many points as I did because I watch lots of films and vaguely know who Jimmie Johnson is). Kind of disappointed I didn’t quite manage the most insulated category now.
I guess I should go buy a case of domestic beer to better understand the pain of Trump supporters.
I got a 35… shrug oooh not watching all those movies and TV is my downfall.
I got 63:
A first-generation middle-class person with working-class parents and average television and movie going habits. Typical: 66.
Yep. This is me all over.
There’s my street cred. (unpaved street, by the way)
11–80: A first-generation upper-middle-class person with middle-class parents. Typical: 33.
0–43: A second-generation (or more) upper-middle-class person who has made a point of getting out a lot. Typical: 9.
Upper-middle-class my arse. Upper-middle-class is Kate Middleton.
I got 49, although I changed some of the questions because I have never lived in the US. I had no idea about the answers to some of the US pop culture questions.
My family background is lower middle to middle class. Living for a year in a working class housing estate on what would be equivalent to $9,000 today (after I had left my parents home) may have skewed the result a bit.
It also doesn’t recognise that there is more ideological difference between an libertarian socialist (believe it or not, there are some in the US) and a right wing democrat, than there is between a right wing democrat and a moderate republican.
