'Many dead' after truck crashes into Bastille Day crowd in Nice, France

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That was awesome!

Liked! :love_letter:

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Literally any musical form can be political. Protest songs can come in any form and different cultures have their own ways of adopting even their “classical” forms into “political” music. Hip hop has been at times a form for political content but at least as often if not more, it has been about bragging, challenging, bravado, courting, storytelling, etc. etc. etc.

At one time the CIA used modern art for its own ends. Does that mean that Jackson Pollack’s paintings were inherently political?

Certainly a resident of the Ivory Tower could make their name researching the political aspects of a musical genre. Undoubtedly there has been rap music, that isn’t the question. I’m sure also there is someone on the 531st floor of the tower who insists that all rap music is political. They may well have a very lengthy publication to back up their theory. Perhaps they can even explain why “I like big butts and I can not lie” is in fact political.

To them I’d say that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

I’ve been known to describe old-timey Appalachian stringband music [1] as “whitefella blues”.

Poor white people singing about how shitty their lives are vs poor black people singing about how shitty their lives are. Same lyrical top layer, different musical underpinnings.

[1] Which I love; check out The Mammals for some cool modern stuff.

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Is that for real?

/me knows nothing about the dressage scene

Dressage is a real thing, but I’ve never heard of using hip hop. I used to take riding lessons years ago and my instructor used to compete (locally) in dressage. She maintained that horses really do enjoy performing dressage because they like the music. It makes sense that hip hop would work because the horses can hear the beat.

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There are some amazing bits of music come out of Appalachia indeed.

It’s the Danish rider Andreas Helgstrand with Blue Hors Matiné at the World Equestrian Games 2006, and it seems to be real. Here’s the same horse and rider dancing to “Lady Marmalade” in the same competition:

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All sortsa funky fusion possibilities these days, too:

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Huh. I never knew I liked dressage. Not sure it’s possible to like it more than that horse does, though,

Have a :heart_decoration:

I love those moments when you “get” a new sport, music style or something else for the first time. Speaking of which, thanks for sharing the music @Wanderfound!

And can I just say that I’m kind of happy this thread is so off topic? I don’t think there’s a whole lot that can be added to the discussion after all of the other attacks and sharing some of the enjoyable things in life is as good a way as any to remember people who didn’t go to the Nice beachfront to become a political talking point.

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You are right. :slight_smile:

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I think it’s a perfect reponse to any tragedy I can’t affect. Acknowledge it, empathise and refuse to capitulate to the fear and hate.

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In more than one of the attacks in France on Jews by Arabs, the perpetrator was local.

This seemed to be a “drive forward and mow everybody down” rampage. Not particularly targeted.

I lived in the burbs of Paris for a few years growing up. I’d give you this and add: steep differences in economic wellbeing (economic disparity in France is shocking at times) & cultural “pockets” that don’t necessarily “want” to be isolated but end up being so nevertheless- add a gen or two and people no longer know why they don’t know their neighbors…

While I don’t identify as a Parisian, nor Frog (Limey), France is still “home” to me & French is my Mother Tongue - this just breaks my heart… :sob:

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