Map of American people's attempts to guess where North Korea is


Judging by my prof’s experience, they weren’t teaching it very well in the 1980s either. Teaching geography and history through the lens of multiculturalism and social justice is a valid approach, but a solid foundation is required before you build the fancy and progressive house.


I’ve moved from Boston to Los Angeles, and from Los Angeles to Seattle … but I’ve never had a passport. I can move thousands of miles and not really go anywhere.


I can move thousands of miles and not really go anywhere.

Sounds like a lot of interstate highways I’ve been on.


Yeah, I drove through Idaho once. My suggestion for their new state slogan: Idaho: A Thousand Miles of Beige.


we drove out the British to found democracy

That’s not even close to correct.


I’ve been through Oklahoma many times. This seems like a good plan:


Same as a German, but those aren’t countries we have any beef with.

Someone in or from Jamaica made a similar point regarding Europeans not knowing where Jamaica is, but this is a faulty comparison.

Most Europeans are not that concerned about Jamaican missile tests, Jamaican nukes or the complex relationship between Northern Jamaica, Southern Jamaica, the EU and the peoples Republic of Canada. They also didn’t went to war with Jamaica, sent some 300.000 soldiersm and made a successful TV sitcom/drama about a Mobile Army Surgical Hospital.


Maybe not, but this book was certainly eye-opening for me:


Thanks to the the sameness of American commercialism one doesn’t have to adapt to a new and different environments normally associated with journeys to different and far off places. One goes from a Target-Best Buy-HomeDepot-Safeway-Starbucks Combo to another. It all looks and feels the same.


Have you driven through Nevada? It’s not much better.


I have! It’s less Beige and more Post-Apocalyptic, I think. Once you pass Vegas there’s nothing.


Driving through Nevada is dull as hell but having lived in the desert for so long i enjoy and miss it. Currently in Austin where it’s very green and i low key wish i could enjoy some barren landscapes lol.


Now that I think of it, both drives were for the same thing. Los Angeles -> Provo, Utah takes you through the barren wasteland of Nevada (and a tiny sliver of Arizona that’s very pretty). Driving from Seattle -> Provo takes you through the most boring parts of Oregon and Idaho.


Oh, I’m sure that there are lots of interesting things to know about Jamaica, absolutely. Probably more than a single person not dedicated to this can ever take in completely. Probably not even then. But that’s true for all about 150 countries making up the Earth, its multitude of peoples and histories.


195/196 countries actually. Unless you are saying that 50 of them really don’t have much history? :wink:


Well that’s the problem with school. The average student is not normally going to care about geography and history, and if they were to be forced to learn it it’s much easier to relate it in terms that they understand (aka: How it relates to where they live and how it impacted their country/region).

History was one of my least favorite classes and i found it horribly dull. As i’ve grown older i’ve come to really appreciate and even love it. I’m sure i could easily spend some time going down the rabbit hole of learning the history of Jamaica if given the chance.


OK, in fairness Texas is quite different.


This was life in Ohio for me. Mostly just strip malls, chain restaurants, and McMansions.


I’m sorry - but if you can’t locate North Korea on a map, you shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion on North Korea (policy, engagement strategy, fine dining, anything).


You left out science. Once again, my favorite clipping, from 1992. Has been replicated more recently.

This just in: Earth revolves around sun!

CHICAGO (AP) More than 450 years after Copernicus proved the Earth revolves around the sun, millions of adult Americans seem to think it’s the other way around, a researcher reported yesterday.

On very basic ideas, vast numbers of Americans are scientifically illiterate," said Jon Miller of Northern Illinois University, who conducted a nationwide survey for the National Science Foundation.

In the July telephone survey of 2041 adults 18 or older, people were asked about 75 questions testing their knowledge of basic science. Miller said.

Asked whether the Earth goes around the sun or the sun around the Earth, 21 percent replied incorrectly. Seven percent said they didn’t know.

Of the 72 percent who answered correctly, 45 percent said it takes one year for the Earth to orbit the sun, 17 percent said one day, 2 percent said one month and 9 percent didn’t know.

The responses indicate that about 55 percent of adult Americans, or some 94 million people, don’t know that the Earth revolves around the sun once a year, Miller said.