Map of separatist support in Europe


#1

Originally published at: https://boingboing.net/2017/10/11/map-of-separatist-support-in-e.html


#2

This is super picky, and kinda sorta addressed in the OP’s explainer, but isn’t support for a united Ireland technically irredentism rather than separatism?


#3

Looks like the map maker missed Cornwall in the UK. A poll in 2003 reported 55% in favour of a referendum on an elected, fully devolved regional assembly for Cornwall. So support for true independence might be in the 10-19%.


#4

90% of the votes in the referendum were for Catalonian independence.

Total # of votes vs # of potential voters is in the high 40%


#5

Pretty skeptical of the Scottish figures. All three of the opinion polls on which they’re based were commissioned by heavily pro-Unionist newspapers. One’s the Daily Mail, I think that speaks for itself. The country still voted for a pro-Independence party, which continues to hold a majority of Scotland’s MPs, MSPs and council seats. Is it still weighted in favour of No? I’d grant that. But if anything the margin is now slimmer than the 45/55 split from the hideous Unionist propaganda-fest that was the 2014 referendum.


#6

This map could use little indicators to distinguish between “Because we’re racist” and “To get away from racists”


#7

truly, they’re inseperable.


#8

Hang on why is London there?

If we separate I would be aligned with North London – can’t have that.

Can we have a Republic of Free Balham?


#9

It all depends on the perspective of who is leaving whom and joining whom. You could argue that Catalonian separatism is irredentism from the perspective of the one-time Principality of Catalonia.


#10

My preference would be:

  1. Reform the E.U. to be truly democratic.
  2. Let each region who wants to be independent be independent within the E.U. (except the U.K. they can go pout in a corner until the properly apologise :-D)
  3. Profit? Maybe? Less unrest maybe?

#11

The map is not complete. According to the poll below, 3 out of 646,257 Frisians (0.0004%) want to separate from the Netherlands:

[Update] Ninety percent of non-Limburgian Dutch want Limburg to separate.


#12

As long as when referring to the UK you mean all the bits that don’t want to be independent because Scotland sure as hell doesn’t want to be leaving the EU.


#13

But the Principality of Catalonia no longer exists, and was more or less coterminous with the autonomous community of Catalonia. Northern Ireland, however, did use to be part of a larger polity which (or a successor state of which) still exists.


#14

Ok, I’ll say ‘England’ instead :smiley:


#15

Italy never really got past the city state phase, especially in the richer north, so Venice isn’t much of a surprise.


#16

What I think will be more interesting is how many separating countries may still be interested in being part of the European Union.


#17

I would think that would be the benefit of having smaller countries - less infighting in overly large, post-imperialist countries composed of disparate regions while retaining the benefits of EU membership.


#18

That sounds like a delicious cheese. I’m off to lunch!


#19

I don’t need to apologise. I voted remain, still fight to remain and have taken enough shit from Brexit people for not giving in to them.

I’m still on the DiEM25 mailing list, although I don’t get involved that much because I don’t think I have any right to have any say in how the EU is reformed anymore, at least until someone sane and in the cabinet decides that leaving may be a disastrous idea and makes an attempt to stop this idiocy.


#20

The flag in the image is that of the City of London (for non-Brits, that’s the ‘Square Mile’ of London’s traditional financial district, not the entire city of London - Westminster, Camden, etc.), so you’re probably okay :wink: