Masked Nazis bang on cafe windows and shout slurs to disrupt drag story hour

And To Wong Foo was suspiciously similar to the Australian road trip comedy The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert which starred Hugo Weaving, Guy Pierce and Terence Stamp and was a huge international hit.

But I use Mrs. Doubtfire as an example since it was billed as an all-ages family film and didn’t seem to cause a lot of controversy with its portrayal of a man in drag engaging in wholesome activities with young children.

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Makes me wonder how Dustin Hoffman feels nowadays about the message put out there by Tootsie. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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I think that was one of those moments of serendipity where two similar movies are in production around the same time. Ike Antz and A Bug’s Life.

Though Priscilla is the superior movie, especially with the cinematography, John Leguizamo continues to show his broad range in that movie.

Like half of British comedy is men dressing up as old women.

Lots of sketch shows that are sausage fests, like The Whitest Kids y’Know, also do a lot of drag.

And The Birdcage was amazing with Nathan Lane and Robin Williams, and even had Gene Hackman in drag. (Who played a super staunch conservative politician.)

And Ru Paul’s Drag Race has been on TV in forever.

I know there are different kinds, but most of it is pageantry and fun. I am almost half way through it, but Some More New just put out a video about the anti-drag hysteria is 100% bullshit.

ETA - I was going to post the video link:

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Been a long time since I saw that one. I seem to remember the underlying message of Tootsie was broadly pro-feminist (at least by early 1980s standards) but I’m sure it probably also had a lot of stuff that aged poorly.

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Truly - where are the Nazi-punchers when you really need them?

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Maybe? I don’t recall that storyline.
The plot is a cis-het white man pretending to be a woman in order to get an, essentially, affirmative action job in broadcast. Given the current discourse about trans people, it didn’t age well.

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classic film old hollywood GIF

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The stage version of Mrs. Doubtfire was specifically cited by Rep. Jack Johnson, the sponsor of Tennessee’s drag ban, as something he didn’t want to ban. Of course there are two problems with his claim. The first is the law is so broad it’s open to interpretation. The second is he claimed it was intended solely to prevent “men dressed as women simulating sex acts in public parks in front of kids” which is simply not happening because there are already laws that forbid it.

In fact the owners of bars that don’t even admit anyone under 21 that have drag shows said that if those shows included “simulated sex acts” they’d lose their liquor licenses.

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It’s traditional.

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I’m not sure there’s ever a reasonable way to refer to a class of people as “trash.” People are people. “Garbage person” would seem to confer the meaning without taking away their humanity.

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Agreed. “Low income Republicans/conservatives” might have conveyed the intent, I dunno.

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I was going to post something along those lines, but the ground was well covered. Having some way to name the Nazis is important though. Their employers can decide whether they are okay having them on staff.

Do private investigators have access to police fingerprint databases? That is probably just on TV.

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Agreed, however we’ve got a system with issues based on privilege, racism, sexism, and class/money. When protesters are members of marginalized groups they get attacked and/or arrested by law enforcement and sometimes accused of terrorism. What happened here reminds me of what we saw on Jan 6. Even though these Nazis were hitting private property and disturbing the peace, they weren’t arrested. It’s much harder to identify folks after you let them disperse and go home. Hell, the FBI is still trying to ID folks who were at the Capitol on Jan 6th.

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I don’t give a fuck. Their uncomfortableness is their fucking problem. They can go to psychiatrist if that’s a real issue. Again, it’s not anyone’s but their problem.

Did you not see the last election? 47% voted for the demagogue. Minus the 25% know-nothing, there is 22% of your so called “people without strong opinions”.

I don’t care. You can’t reach them. They’re long gone. They’re already made their bed and lied in it. Why anyone with half a brain have to coddle to those closet racists is beyond me.

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I don’t know if people realise how much we Brits laugh at the people making all the fuss about drag queens telling stories to children.

In Britain, pantomime is a classic, child oriented, stage performance associated with the Christmas season. It’s stories such as Cinderella, Dick Whittington and his Cat, Peter Pan and so on. One of the features of any pantomime is the character known as the Principle Dame who is always a man in drag. Equally the Principal Boy (Peter Pan, Dick Whittington) is a woman dragged up as a man/boy.

So cross dressing actors telling stories to children is as normal to us Brits as cricket and warm beer.

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If only it was nothing more than a laughing matter, not a strategic point of attack, intended to make demonizng the LGBTQA+ community more acceptable to the general populace in the US…

But “the UK is inherently better than the US,” so that makes it ‘all good…’ /s

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I’m sorry you feel that way.

Culture changes gradually. 30 years ago roughly a quarter of Americans supported same-sex marriage. Today it’s approaching three quarters, even with the last few years’ sustained right-wing assault on LGBT rights. U.S. Same-Sex Marriage Support Holds at 71% High

So that 22% probably includes a LOT of people who changed their minds about gay marriage at some point in the last 30 years, and there’s every reason to believe they’ll change their minds about drag (and trans rights), too.

I’ve seen sooooo many people on social media in the last year or so who seem to truly believe that Drag Queen Story Hour is sexual. Some of them are undoubtedly bigots who believe that anything with a whiff of LGBT flavor is inherently “perverse” or “deviant” and aren’t inclined to change their minds. But many of them are just people who consume right-wing media and have seen that one video of that British “mommy and me” burlesque show where drag queens are twerking in front of toddlers, and don’t understand that Drag Queen Story Hour is just grown-ups dressing up and reading kids’ books out loud. Once they understand it, they will change their minds, too.

This is literally terrorism, isn’t it?

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Maybe it’s just in poor taste to laugh at a genocide in the making, especially when you Brits have one of your own. This is ridiculous but well past being funny. :frowning:

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