Though that doesn’t apply when there is an employment contract, which I believe is the case at Twitter.
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Though even then, the long hours and weekend work is unlikely to happen. If they do roll call and force people to be present, expect Twitter internal servers to be running Call of Duty for more than 60% of bandwidth.
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Actually, when I was a teen, having a stash of hardcore VHS tapes hidden somewhere was cool.
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Well, he’s doing an awfully good job of getting himself seen as exactly that, intentionally or not. That’s why this makes no sense.
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Sadly, some of the best things making fun of Twitter are on Twitter
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Similar feel here. I’ve never lived in the US despite offers, and the employment laws / culture are one of the big reasons.
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I seem to be allergic to working for established companies, so I’ve watched three employers go bankrupt. That tend-folding bit looks pretty much locked in, to me. The signs are solid.
ETA: and when the tent folds, there is no money to pay entitlements or severance benefits.
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The major takehome I heard of his vision of twitter was more freed speech for people who have been “censored” ie, kicked off twitter. So there may be rw employees who stick around or try to get hired to make twitter a better environment for advocating fascism and challenging human rights.
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“The beatings will continue until morale improves”
A couple of greybeards at my first employer used to employ that quote quite often. We had “that” kind of manager back then.
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From what I’ve read, I suspect there was a certain amount of that at the start, and they said, “Uh, that’s illegal/impossible” and quit (or got fired) and now he’s left with no clear management structure.
It’s nuts on multiple levels - Twitter isn’t a tech company (so being engineering-driven guarantees disaster), better engineering won’t solve any of their current problems, and very publicly treating your engineers like crap won’t endear you to them. But I’m not sure he really means it anyways - it sounded good, based on his misunderstanding of what Twitter is, but ultimately he wants things driven by Musk fan-boys.
Well, he did previously say he could fix Twitter in a weekend.
Well, I don’t count that as wanting to go along with it, but “unwillingly being dragged along, out of desperation.”
There’s a surprising number of Musk fan-boys in tech, and I’ve seen some evidence that there are at least a few hard-core Musk sycophants at Twitter, who are happy to go along with things. But the number of Musk fan-boys must be plummeting in the face of his displays of incompetence, especially at Twitter. So yeah, I really do suspect they’re rapidly approaching the point where the only Twitter employees left are basically being held hostage, if they haven’t hit it already with this latest stunt.
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It’s kind of worse than that.
Twitter isn’t a company that makes its money by its engineering teams, that’s true, they make it from their advertising teams… BUT… they (used to) employ some of the brightest technical minds in the industry around Scala, High Availability, Microservices, Response, Delivery, Distribution, etc. Think how often Twitter had problems, ever, in history for more than 2 or 3 minutes at a time at most. Think about how they operated even in areas with very constrained internet or restricted traffic through various censorship means. These people are some of the best engineers in the world, by far.
He’s not just going to be able to run out to a college job fair and promise sycophantic tech bros to come work for him and get nearly the same quality as that which he just fired. And those people aren’t coming back. Many of them have already been targeted and picked up elsewhere by people who would LOVE to have the high availability records that twitter had.
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Yeah, sure boss. Let me tell you about what will constitute an acceptable compensation package for all that…
What’s he going to do? Try to find someone who is sucker enough to take equity at this point? Pay in Dogecoin? Does he think that what people will put up with to do actual spaceship stuff is transferrable to what people will put up with to work on a large, but not desperately exotic or atypically interesting, social network?
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Has Elon gone into the details of exactly how the methamphetamine will be distributed/administered to those who choose to stay?
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Assuming it’s a typical tech company employment contract (of which I have signed a couple dozen in my career) it doesn’t amount to anything more than “we own everything you do and can fuck you over any way we please at any time”. The primary purpose of employment contracts in tech is to get people to undersign arguably illegal no-compete clauses to make them feel like they can never leave because they’d starve before they’d be able to work elsewhere. I always had those be removed before signing because they are bullshit.
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