New York anti-vaxxers suing for right to infect public

Quit spreading this dangerous nonsense. Quite literally there is a woman in a coma who was vaccinated and may have contracted the measles in NYC!

It’s not the first time, and you were corrected then.

@dommerdoodle linked the case of an Israeli flight attendant who contracted measles despite immunization and is now in a coma:

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As often, Thomas Jefferson has something to say to religious anti-vaxxers:

But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. But when my neighbour, in an access of overzealous madness, deigns to avoid the divine pinprick of the vaccination needle, then is when I think, what a goddamn dumb motherfucker, and thenceforward I proceed to cap his ass, yea, and with the quickness, because herd fucking immunity.

Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia


We don’t want 'em either! Arrest 'em, put 'em in chains, and forcibly shove the needles into their goddamn arms, then release them. I’m tired of this shit.

Oh, and slap them on the face, too, for being such selfish, ignorant douche-bags.


Honestly a blowdart vaccination program seems like a better idea every day.



And fathers, right.

Good dog, is it mandatory for a piñata to show up in every vaccination thread?

Look, this isn’t hard. If you love your kids, you get them vaccinated. Fully. If you love your family, you get your adult booster shots.

Also, moms in the room, raise your hand if you got an MMR booster early in your pregnancy. :raised_back_of_hand: If they did, too, they’re hypocrites on top of being massive assholes.


All that needs to happen is to have insurance companies state they will not cover any medical bills of unvaccinated children (except of course those medically unable to be vaccinated.)

A couple families facing $500,000 medical bills and I bet the whole community changes their tune.

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I would vote for an entire state with a wall surrounding it blocking it off from surrounding states where it is reserved for solely anti-vax people. So they can go there and be stupid without affecting the health of the rest of us

I said I would but it sounds too much like the internment camps for the Japanese during World War II and the current Refugee crisis.

I am torn how to get rid of the stupid in these people and their effect on society when they refuse to not only listen to established scientific fact but reasonable argument literally in the face of death


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The public should counter sue these mothers and demand the court to ensure that they and their family are vaccinated

Vaccinated or isolated. Could Riker’s Island be converted to an Antivaxxer Colony?

Well, NY still has North Brother Island. It was setup for just this purpose back in the day when Typhoid Fucking Mary wouldn’t stop getting her shit into people’s food.


Where do I sign up for this job?

Just imagine traffic law if that principle were applied literally:

“Your freedom to drive as you please ends (only) when you hit mine.”


If they’re religious fundies they seriously think they’ve banished themselves to their little enclaves. And of course microbes always respect such norms.


Good grief - don’t tell me they DO cover that shit? Surely it is a standard policy exclusion by now?

And dads, and grandparents. We asked everyone who would have close contact with our infant to get a booster.
Also chose a daycare that requires vaccines for kids and boosters for adults. This is the only rational thing to do.
Vaccinated not just for me and mine, but for all the infants and all the people who can’t because of a real medical condition.


Way back in ‘08, before this madness was out of control, it wasn’t advised for everyone around the kid to get their boosters because we had sufficient herd immunity. Good on ‘ya for going the extra mile for your little ones!



It wasn’t too hard for us- a lot of our relatives work in healthcare as doctors or nurses, so they knew their vaccination status already and were protected. We asked everyone else to just go get it if they weren’t sure. The ones who refused- anti-vaxxers (and yes, I have spent literal days trying to convince these particular relatives to change their ways), just didn’t get to see her. A bit heartbreaking to explain to a 9 year old he can’t see his cousin b/c his mom is willfully ignorant.


Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.

“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.

“I feel all sleepy,” she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her. That was twenty-four [sic] years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.

On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure that this sort of tragedy does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist that their child is immunised against measles. I was unable to do that for Olivia in 1962 because in those days a reliable measles vaccine had not been discovered. Today a good and safe vaccine is available to every family and all you have to do is to ask your doctor to administer it.

It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness. Believe me, it is. In my opinion parents who now refuse to have their children immunised are putting the lives of those children at risk. In America, where measles immunisation is compulsory, measles like smallpox, has been virtually wiped out.

Here in Britain, because so many parents refuse, either out of obstinacy or ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunised, we still have a hundred thousand cases of measles every year. Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another. At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections. About 20 will die.


Every year around 20 children will die in Britain from measles.

So what about the risks that your children will run from being immunised?

They are almost non-existent. Listen to this. In a district of around 300,000 people, there will be only one child every 250 years who will develop serious side effects from measles immunisation! That is about a million to one chance. I should think there would be more chance of your child choking to death on a chocolate bar than of becoming seriously ill from a measles immunisation.
So what on earth are you worrying about? It really is almost a crime to allow your child to go unimmunised.

The ideal time to have it done is at 13 months, but it is never too late. All school-children who have not yet had a measles immunisation should beg their parents to arrange for them to have one as soon as possible.

Incidentally, I dedicated two of my books to Olivia, the first was ‘James and the Giant Peach’. That was when she was still alive. The second was ‘The BFG’, dedicated to her memory after she had died from measles. You will see her name at the beginning of each of these books. And I know how happy she would be if only she could know that her death had helped to save a good deal of illness and death among other children.

Roald Dahl

Also relevant


Since you are in Germany, I suppose you do understand German.
Here’s a link you can listen to on your daily commute or whenever it suits you, telling you some details about the Reichsimpfgesetz making vaccination against smallpox mandatory.

WDR ZeitZeichen - Reichsimpfgesetz erlassen (am 08.04.1874)

Just for everyone else: the counter-arguments were very similar at the time, and yes, of course, it did work. Also, later vaccination campaigns were not mandatory since education worked (at the time).

Interesting fact mentioned: vaccination service is more easily accepted if the vaccination is delivered in an everyday environment, like the workplace or school.

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