Not allowed to blather, Trump retreats from demand to make his own closing statement

Its amazing the kind of representation one gets when they are known for not paying their bills.

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Tactically savvy… yet…

Re Kise’s response to Engoron’s “ground rules”: In the email exchange Wednesday, Engoron said the limitations on Trump applied to everyone who planned to speak at the hearing. But Kise called them “very unfair” for the former president. "You are not allowing President Trump, who has been wrongfully demeaned and belittled by an out of control, politically motivated Attorney General, to speak about the things that must be spoken about,” Kise wrote to the judge.

Given the tenor of that response, I wonder how strategically savvy he is about his own career in law.

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Paul would buzz TFG for his NPD causing him to sit there and bask in imagined glory before even starting for hesitation and Sue would uphold it.

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Okay, I won’t argue the point about relative badness, but as an attorney myself I do resist the temptation to cast aspersions on the act of defending even really terrible people – Harvey Weinstein, for instance – just because the client is terrible.

I’d also note that terrible people can be very good clients – not just in that they pay the bills, but in that they are coachable. They can be told things. And they can internalize things. I just don’t see how Trump could be a remotely tolerable client because I think he’s utterly incapable of regarding his lawyers as knowing more than he does.

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Was going to say.He’s more dangerous than any mass murderer, he was happy have a plague spreading in “blue” states, and his return to power would mean a democratic superpower would get replaced with a fascist state. The potential carnage would be greater than 9/11 or the Oklahoma City bombing.

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And he’s incapable of not launching into a political speech of his favorite hits. He’d probably insist on doing YMCA.

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I agree 100%. I do however think everyone gas a right to competent representation - not just the wealthy.

I’m not sure if you’re running into this in your area, but there is such a shortage of public defenders that some trials are being delayed for years. While wealthy defendents make bail (or aren’t even held on it, due to a squadron of expensive lawyers), normal, not-yet-convicted people rot in jail for lack of bail money and lack or representation.

My proposal is that instead of depending upon a professional, overworked and underpayed public defender system, simply make every attorney licensed to practice in the state rotate through the public defender’s office. I would include prosecutors in that, though obviously not in their own jurisdiction. Maybe even require every defendant to have such a public defender as lead counsel to further level the playing field.

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I certainly think no one in this country should be a prosecutor unless they’ve been a PD for a couple of years. I’ve got a friend at my gym who is a local DA – domestic violence stuff, she really is doing good work – but I suggested this and she look at me like I had three heads.

If I can get myself to a point where I can really retire from practice, I’d seriously consider being a PD. It appeals to my libertarian instincts, although I’d probably get sanctioned for hinting at jury nullification all the time…

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He is a mass murderer for his acts of sheer incompetence, indifference and flat out malice with how the pandemic was handled.

He’s the landlord who chained the emergency exits, bribed fire inspectors off, plundered the sprinkler system for scrap and sold off the fire extinguisher before a fire happens

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Maybe also fund Public Defender offices adequately and provide decent benefits. Most states and cities don’t give these offices adequate resources because its deemed politically inconvenient. It’s easy to trade up for an elected position as being “tough in crime”. Difficult as a “defender of the helpless”

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Given the tenor of that response, I suspect that the response was dictated by the client.

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Bingo.

I submit that a smart lawyer would have said this: My client firmly believes that he is being wrongfully demeaned and belittled by an out of control, politically motivated Attorney General,

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I’m convinced that “very unfair” is Trump’s own words.

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His mantra. Likely he babbles it in his sleep.

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My idea is to simply bypass that step, in which there is still a two-tiered justice system for haves and have-nots.

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I know you’re coming from a good place but that would be a disaster. Most attorneys are unqualified to do criminal law. The types of law we practice are completely different and most of us don’t even enter court rooms.
We just need a public defender office funded at the same level as the DA. Perhaps a requirement that anyone who wants to be a prosecutor has to do a two year stint as a public defender

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You’re right and I should know better. It would be like requiring all doctors to do spine surgery.

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Maybe for litigators only? Within their specialty? I don’t know. Maybe just a pool of attorneys who practice criminal law, and each case gets randomly assigned a prosecution and defense lead. Hire help as needed, but your assigned lawyer has to litigate it. More feasible probably with non-police investigators investigating crimes, per the Defund the Police proposals.

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I really think that if a public defenders office was funded at the same level as the DA, there would be enough qualified attorneys who want to do the work. At the moment it’s a lot like public school teachers. Plenty of talented and passionate people but not enough who can afford to work for low salaries. Pair a well funded public defender with a diversion program and the savings on fewer incarcerated people might even pay for both.

But hey, I’m a dirty socialist

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I still can’t get over the fact that, in addition to irreparably damaging the fabric of reality generally, he also specifically ruined You Can’t Always Get What You Want.

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