Nudists are terrorists, according to prude

Dibs on new name for a band.

Yes, I assume by now the nudity of animals is a shopworn joke, but I suppose there might be somebody left who takes it as a serious issue.

Naked (or even semi-naked) animals do set a poor example for impressionable minds

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Prudists are terrorists, according to nude.

Read it in his voice - and it soooooo works!!!
(Just change Clutching to Clutchin’)

BTW - it’s a good thing my neighbor is a curtain twitcher (he’s a Vietnam vet living at the front of my condo complex). He happened to notice people coming and going with suitcases in the mornings far too often from a rental unit - turns out that renter had not one, not two, but three different ads on airbnb for her place!

All totally illegal - for multiple reasons! (and she’s a paralegal)

Oh great. So one less cheaper-than-ho(s)tel affordable place for visitors to the area…

She had a lease that didn’t allow subletting at all. Also, local law doesn’t allow short term sublets in community properties. The area I live in isn’t zoned for hotels or motels (which must be the entire building anyway), only “bed & breakfasts” which are, by definition, in single family homes.

She was doing this on a group water meter.

About that “cheap” rate. Actually, she was charging:

$60/night for her sofa (occ. 2)
$95/night for her spare bedroom (occ. 4)
$250/night for her unit (occ. 7)

Add one person to to the “sofa” and “bedroom” occupancy amounts, because she’d still be in the unit. So, that’s another way it was illegal. In a two-bedroom, you can have MAX 4 people. She was offering the unit for 5 or 7.

Any amount above the cost of her own rent is actually due to her landlord, and she may owe some taxes as well. When we found out about it, she already had 15 reviews. She’d only been in the unit for 3 months.

I see the problem from the other side, as a potential end-user. The price is a bit on the high end, but 6-7 people will comfortably fit into two-bedroom place when it is a short stay. (For longer stay it’d get cramped rather quickly, but for a crash pad for a festival/convention/exhibition/conference it is just sufficient.)

The zoning just means that there were few other options in the given area. I am not familiar with the area so can’t assess how problematic it is.

The group water meter is a potential issue. But depends on the actual amount of water used; with on/off use pattern it can quite well average out to the normal consumption of one or two full-time residents.

But if the only other impact on the community was slight increase of people-with-suitcases traffic, I don’t see much harm done.

For the people who actually live in this 14-unit, two-story, two-exit only, 1956 gated complex - occupant rates really do matter. It’s a major fire hazard.

How about her doing laundry - DAILY!?! - to clean the sheets used by her guests? Our water rate more than tripled, and currently in California you can be fined for high water use - we’re in a severe drought.

P.S. She wasn’t an owner, but a renter - she wouldn’t have been fined.

Three more people (4 vs 7) aren’t that much difference. This house is over a century old, three-story, maybe 15 units, one exit. Three more occupants won’t even blip on the radar.

The water consumption is an issue. Group metering is not really a good idea. But it is nothing that can not be solved with a dialogue and her chipping in a fixed estimated sum for each laundry load. The excessive use, depends on if the total ever got close to the limits.

Give it up. What she did was illegal SEVEN DIFFERENT WAYS!!!

The first one was THAT IT BROKE HER LEASE!

P.S. We found out after the fact that this is probably why she left the LAST place she lived - AND the IRS is now hunting her!!!

Also, you’re suggesting it’s not a problem for ANYONE who’s a renter to do (none of our owners WANT TO!!!) - we have half renters in a 14 unit complex: THAT EQUALS A POSSIBLE 21 EXTRA PEOPLE trying to get out of two single-person wide doors, and using narrow stairwells, and upping water use AND increasing fire risk from the increased draw on electric!!!

AND UPPING THE COST OF OUR HOME AD FIRE INSURANCE - if we could even get it. Our current coverage would drop us if anyone did this with our knowledge.

OH - She ALSO gave out our front GATE CODE to ALL her guests!!!

Did she do any REAL harm? Except some paperwork oversteps (and water cost)?

The possible 21 more will be a problem only once they start actually appearing. THEN solve the issue.

(And the wiring should withstand sustained load to which the breakers are rated. That’s what the thermal overload part is in the device, in addition to the electromagnetic peak-current one. I tripped mine a number of times.)

There are way way way too many regulations.

Now, back to the workshop for me, where I violate a million of ordinances and regulations but don’t care as long as I harm none. (Should I? Life is too short to spend it as a lawyer.)

SO YES!!! SHE DID REAL EFFING HARM!!! We have to change the gate code. Her owner had to serve her with a 3-day quit, and we may still have to have her here for the 9 month remainder of her lease, even though she’s a security risk.

You’re being deliberately obtuse about this. You know that what she did was patently wrong. She didn’t own the property. She had a lease that didn’t allow that use, in a city that doesn’t allow that use in this type of building. She knew it was wrong - because she’s done it before. And she wasn’t just giving people a “cheap” place to rest their heads - she was making bank - and doing illegally. She put our insurance at risk, put us at risk of fines for water use, for the way she used the unit, and more. She also put us at physical risk by giving people open, unending access to the complex!!!

There are VERY good reasons this is NOT allowed in community properties.

FINAL EDIT: I realize this got off-topic. My apologies to the Luck Dragon.

I unconsciously did just that.

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