NY Times editor says Trump's danger to democracy is not a top concern

You can play Wordle for free, though!

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How about they just quote all the fascist things Trump says without trying to couch it as harmless or report the facts on the corruption of SCOTUS justices or the facts about how well the economy is doing.

They can absolutely report the facts without supporting either Biden or Trump. But harping about Biden’s age, downplaying Trump’s plans for a fascist America, and playing to the right-wing narrative on things like voter fraud and the border get more clicks.

They can’t report on everything and the choices they make on what to report and how to report it matter. For at least the last decade, they’ve made the choice to support Trump.

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It will be fine. All of the writers will be purged, editorials will have to be approved by Devin Nunes, but it will still have just as many stories celebrating folksy American Nazis. And Wordle.

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Thats It Martin Short GIF by PBS SoCal

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Give me a break. Murdoch built and maintains his media empire on this very principle.

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“Hey, it’s not our job to look outside and tell people whether or not it’s raining!”

Also:
“When we voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party, we never thought they’d eat our faces!”

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i knew someone who worked there, in that vague way all civil society people knew each other in the twenty aughts when twitter wasn’t the cesspool it is now

they got harassed out of their position, and tweeted out a list of behaviors i hadn’t even thought, as an autistic person, were purposeful attempts to harass someone…

i had a bit of a mental breakdown, realizing i’d ascribed my failings as having a bad brain versus purposeful harassment for not being neoliberal trash.

when it comes to factual reporting, NYT is great, but once we stray to opinion they lean right even by american standards

(it’s interesting to me how in the EU/UK being pro universal health care and a few other “socialist” ideas is common even among anders brevik level conservatives)

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Bullying is a big part of the NYC media-industrial complex. Like many creative industries, it can be like high school on steroids for those who aren’t good fits for culture/ideology. The NYT and Conde Nadt are notoriously bad in this regard.

The rank-and-file journalists and editor really do try. That’s the reason the NYT remains in my news diet despite my criticisms.

The problem is that the privilege enjoyed by senior editors like the one interviewed means that the sort of bad-faith, “let’s consider the grievances of the fascists” agendas of columnists like Bobo and Cardinal Douthat find their way into news coverage decisions. This is how we get "Nazi Next Door " pieces, an obsession with “economic anxiety” as the primary explanation for America’s fascist movement, and a refusal to use the word “lie” to describe TFG’s lies.

Right-wing populists are fine with government social programmes, as long as they’re limited to “the right people”.

A while back here we had a regular commenter from Germany here who smugly extolled the ffabulousness of his country’s health care and such, but also regularly slipped in nasty anti-immigrant comments. He stopped posting shortly after the German government cracked down on their far-right thugs, and I don’t think that was a co-incidence.

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I was in not-so-civil society. I really hate to use the term “identity politics”, but I met a lot of milquetoast neoliberals who’d group up with people of the same gender or religion and gang up on folks trying to pass sound policy as aggressive or extreme.

(one of them called me in a panic when a literal mob was pounding on the door at her next job)

it’s my understanding they have some people who basically have staying power because they don’t sexually harass people, but… are very bullying to folks who most would view as kind, decent newsfolk (especially if said newsfolk are happily married)

it’s interesting they never direct vitrol at putin/ru – i was in germany briefly during the refugee crisis, i’d had a really nice time the first time i visited and DB has a good english language menu for booking trains.

there was a LOT of crime/homelessess (i got swarmed and my passport nearly stolen… twice… when folks in stations heard my accent), but people seemed oddly fixated on ppl forced out of syria by assad rather than the stalinism-without-the-social-programs types who propped up assad and fanned the flames of said refugee crisis.

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That basically describes this guy.

Goulden continues where Bradlee begins:

“Rosenthal is a shouter, a curser, a whiner; he keeps a ‘shitlist’ in his head and can hold grudges for years. He is a small man physically but his rages are so violent that he intimidates persons half again his size.”

Goulden’s bile goes on for 486 pages as he describes Rosenthal as weeper and egomaniac, womanizer and homophobe, chauvinist and tyrant. Other Times historians and memoirists avoid Goulden’s malice but confirm his portrait of Rosenthal as an insecure ranter who terrorized his staff and centralized all news judgment into his office.

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I wouldn’t say the UK is pro universal health care anymore. Just ask any trans person.

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I don’t think it is either. It is their job to accurately and honestly report what the candidates say and do, and not try to justify on candidate’s fascist blabbering as “harmless posturing” while characterizing the other as a semi-senile old man. Trying to couch Il Douche’s authoritarian fantasies as “not meaning what it sounds like” when he has shown us that he means exactly what he says, and bothsidesing every-damn-thing, is clearly favoring the fascist candidate. It’s that simple. Just report the news honestly and Il Douche looks like the asshat he is. They refuse to do that. Because honest reporting would be “taking a side.” Which should say all that needs to be said.

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Add onto that, it’s their job to report on the things he actually says, not translated from his barely coherent babble into something that sounds competent.

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