Exposure times might also have something to do with it. You’d need to be a pothead measuring in at several MegaSnoops to smoke the equivalent amount of weed to a 3-pack-a-day habit.
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I’d probably put it in the range of less than a decaSnoop, honestly. Or failing that, I’d assume Snoop Dogg specifically smokes enough pot himself to match the amount of burned plant matter inhalation to at least a 2PACer.
You don’t hold a puff on a cig at all. It’s mostly just a big suck, then you blow it all out. With a joint or a bong or a weed pipe you the key to proper technique is to take as big a hit as you can and hold it till you start to gray-out, keeping as much smoke in your lungs as long as possible.
There’s a big distinction in mechanics between smoking pot and smoking cigarettes, and my naieve assumption is that pot smoking techniques definitely encourage holding as much smoke in your lungs as long as your biology permits. Whereas cigarette smoking is not much different than normal breathing.
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I’m sorry, I’ve been there myself, it sucks. I know someone else that went to have a smoke after being told her premie baby had a brain bleed and might be disabled. I think her response might have been similar.
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Based on the information we have? Yes. Most cigarette tobacco is sourced from a hybrid variety with really high nicotine levels. So even whole leaf, high end, cigarette brands are “more addictive” than a lot of other tobacco sources. The time I felt least gross, had the least smokers cough, and smoked the least tobacco by weight I was hand rolling with tobacco from a respectable pipe tobacco blender. I only stopped with that and went to American Spirits because I can’t get the proper filters for hand rolling where I am right now. I could go tube, but they’re too large and I can’t get the tobacco I like in the right volumes to have that make sense. I also keep telling myself the current arrangement is “Temporary GOD DAMN IT”.
But is your tobacco just the cheap “pipe tobacco” sold in bulk through roll your own sources? Because if so its basically just the lowest grade of processed nicotine paper mixed with whole leaf scraps. Little better than what’s in your average name brand cigarette (or a pack of Newports basically). If its whole leaf from a pipe tobacco company you’re probably fine. I used to smoke Peter Stokkebye shags. Finely shredded whole leaf tobaccos from pipe varietals. No additives, low nicotine (but high tar!). Currently, and previously with regular commercial bogs, I smoke 25+ per day. On the Stokkebye I only smoked 10-15 cigarettes per day. And each cigarette was half the size by volume. And 2/3 the size by weight (I checked). Nicotine level was well lower according to manufacturers statements. And a good friend of mine swears my teeth looks a hell of a lot better.
That’s incredibly anecdotal. And I hate that. And I don’t think that counts. But I don’t think we really have anything firmer to go on unfortunately. Though we should.
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Sure is.
And when you give it a go at quitting, post about it for support if you want. BTDT. It fucking bites. 
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Two things,
One, most smokers I walk past while pushing my kiddo go out of their way to hold the cigarette as far away from her as possible, usually while apologising. I like them a lot more than I like this guy.
Two, this kind of prank I dislike. This one, however, was pretty damn funny.
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Yeah. I’m in Washington State. Snohomish County to be more specific. And I buy a 1 pound bag of cheap ($20/bag) “mellow” pipe tobacco about once a month, and smoke about 15 70mm cigs on a weekday. Saturdays I smoke maybe 25, and sundays I smoke much less, maybe 10 altogether, since I wake up at different times but always go to bed at the same time.
In anycase I had an episode last week where I was under extreme pressure at work. And went out to have a smoke. Chainsmoked just two cigs, cqme back in, walked up two flights of stairs. When I caught my breath, pretty suddenly I was in some pretty bad pain. It felt like someone had woked my upper back over with a baseball bat. I ended up going to the ground to ride it out. I could hear and feel my pulse was strong, so I knew I wasn’t having a heart attack or anything. But it was scary to be in a paralyzing amount of pain that suddenly.
The doctor says it’s likely my lungs being tight and cramping. But I wasn’t short of breath and it didn’t hurt to breath and I wasn’t coughing. I think it was just a mild panic attack exacerbated by my health factors. But that’s what’s made me decide to quit. I need my lungs every single day. I don’t objectively need to smoke at all.
I’ll post if I remember to.
I love this little community we’ve all built abd it feels really good to be supported by the members in trying to better myself. I really appreciate it.
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Yeah, if I’m up against a wall or something, and someone passes by who isn’t smoking or has a kid, I’ll hold off on taking a drag and hold my cig as high above my head as I can until they’re completely upwind of me.
I may be a smoker, but that doesn’t mean I’m a big asshole.
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Btw that random job refernce dude is a total “good guy greg”. May he flourish in all his endeavors.
Getting hired is tough and it’s cool to know there’s people out there altruistic enough to be a reference sight unseen. It restores my faith in humanity.
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length/size doesn’t matter because you can pack as little or as much tobacco in there as will physically burn. It’s about density/weight. But that sounds like a typical use. You seem to be smoking less than I have the last few weeks (high fives!). I suspect weight is the better measurement. But the tighter you pack the lower the burn temperature. And that supposedly has an effect on carcinogen level. Slower burn = fewer carcinogens. And a tighter pack in the same space means a slower, lower temp burn. But again no clear research or directive in that direction.
That sounds like a panic attach/heart palpitation. Nothing to do with smoking, I’ve had similar. Before and after being a smoker. BUT its a stimulant so if you go a bit wonky, it can feed and throw it over the top. If that’s an issue best to avoid. We want to smoke more in moments of stress. But it’ll feed that sort of thing, make it worse.
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Yeah. During what I call the “pain episode” I latched onto the fact that I could breathe fine and my pulse’s rhythm was good and amplitude was strong so that let me deescalate and not worry too much.
I pack cigs to a pretty standard size. They’re pretty much uniform, and are much lighter fhan commercial cigs, because if you try to pack them too much the tube tears and if you don’t pack them enough the tobacco is very loose and repacking with a tamper leads to stubby cigs that burn very hot and produce smoke that makes my teeth hurt.
That’s the bad kind of familiar.
That equates to a higher burning temp. Which should mean more cancer. Its why I like hand roll, and roll boxes. I can take less tobacco and roll it tighter and It’ll taste better. And presumably minimize carcinogens. But again I’m rolling on presumption there.
It can be REALLY nice to focus on the details on something as ritualistic as smoking. I’ve found the pipe approach is even better for that. Have you given that end of it a shot? A nice Virginia flake in a cob, reminds me of why I got hopelessly addicted in the first place.
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In this case, to fire out a trotline. Because in the early season before the boaters come out, the salmon may well hang out hundreds of yards offshore.
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Anything heavy in Latakia makes me go all Proust’s madeleine, ya know. Got nowhere to smoke, and it’s too much of a luxury, but if I had…
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I’m pretty sure the hardest part for me will be letting go of the ritual and habit.
I’ve kicked stuff before. But nothing so addictive as nicotine. Mostly stimulants, and usually I’ve been able to switch to something better and less harmful.
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The morning after Dubya was reelected, I held it in.
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The problem is at least in blighty is they are now all painted red instead of different colours for different types so you could accidentally kill some poor b’stard with Halon.
I’d punch the fecker too, real hard and more than once!
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I second that. Of the few people I know who’ve tried Chantix, it’s been about 50/50. Works great for some people - it makes you not care about cigarettes. But it also makes some people not care about anything else either. Good to have somebody watching out for that, because if it has that effect, you might not care about it. It’s worth a try though. And it does indeed trigger some wild dreams.
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IIRC, the dreams are caused by nicotine withdrawal generally. I know that in withdrawal from other stuff I always had crazy dreams.
Heh, one time I was on nicotine patches because I had to spend a week playing tuba with quartets inside Disneyland (senior year field trip with the high school band and symphony). Every single night I either had nightmares about these black holes showing up. I know math well enough to be truly afraid of them. The other kind were dreams where I’d end up peeling the patch off my shoulder, roll it up and start smoking it.
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If you can’t see the sarcasm in my post… well, nevermind
