Off-duty cop drags kid into his yard, draws and fires gun

okay, then “aggressive children”? :slight_smile:

Has the cop got any physical injuries? The kids do.

I guess the cop had to suffer a young girl walking on his lawn, so I suppose the way the world is right now, we can call that aggression, and we can say calling her a “cunt” and then pulling a gun on her friends and firing it is a proportional response.

Yeah, why the fuck not?

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Here in Oz, there was a short-lived satirical series called Bad Cop, Bad Cop that absolutely nailed it (mind you, Aussie cops aren’t quite as trigger-happy, since we don’t have like five guns for every person).

Sorely missed, can’t find a torrent.

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I saw two people trying to get a roid raging skinhead off their buddy that was being illegally kidnapped and dragged around. Under California law, that would be covered under self defense, specifically defense of others. This doctrine (right to defense of another) allows intervening when another person is being touched unlawfully, and only allows using sufficient force to defend the other person, no more. It is pretty clear that these two who intervened in the defense of the thirteen year old kid did not use excessive force in their attempt to defend the thirteen year old kid, they only tried to pry the man off the kid, they didn’t utilize weapons against him or directly attack him. Thus they’d be covered by the doctrine of defense of others and have a strong self defense argument that they were only protecting their friend from being touched unlawfully.

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hey but he is an old racist guy who hopefully dies at the end!

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I tender the following quote from the Netflix series The Santa Clarita Diet:

"I’ll just plant some evidence. I’m an L.A. sheriff’s deputy, it’s literally what we do.”

It’s actually not clear yet if he missed or if he discharged the weapon accidentally.

That’s not what happened. Rewatch the video and pay attention. The cop did plenty wrong, but what you describe is Not what occurred.

One morning when I was a kid the quiet peace of our suburb well within the city limits was shattered by a next door neighbor firing his shotgun at doves on his driveway–his driveway, incidentally, that faced the backyard of another neighbor.

Why were there doves on his driveway? Probably because he was sprinkling it with corn.

That wasn’t the first time he fired one of his guns either. My parents declined to call the cops because, really, how long would they hold him and where else was he gonna go when he got out? The experience left me with the feeling that there are some people who should be actively prevented from ever having firearms.

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I’d like to make one thing perfectly clear here. No one is ever under any obligation to allow a cop to assault you. Everyone has the right to defend themselves from anyone who attacks them including cops. Yelling “I’m a cop” while attacking minors is not a reason to stop defending yourself or the minors nor is it sufficient in establishing the truth of that assertion. Anyone can yell that. Don’t endanger yourself just because you hear those words. In fact, I’d say his actions here should make anyone skeptical about his claim. After all, would a trained law enforcement professional be breaking the law like he was? Additionally, no one is ever required to obey an unlawful order. Further, one cannot be resisting arrest unless an arrestable offence has first taken place and the cop begins arrest procedures.
It seems to me that we have trained the public to automatically enter in to a passive compliance to any action from the police. In my view, this is dangerous. We now live in a nation where failure to automatically comply with any whim of a cop can get you jailed or worse. This is because the police have come to expect immediate compliance without question or reason. The way to put an end to that expectation and disabuse cops of such notions is to only comply with lawful orders instead of immediately dropping your defenses because of a badge or the claim of one.

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The videos I’ve watched are of an altercation already in progress. Here’s a quote from the article, if you missed it:

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Stand your lawn.

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Trying not to get punched in the face is “resisting”.

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The kid was only walking - Imagine if your dog was taking a dump ??!

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Just a little icing for the cake…what properly trained police officer is dumb enough to carry a pistol around in his waistband? Well, besides this guy?
I used to work in a radiology film library. If you guys could see how many self-inflicted gunshot wounds that came through our E.R…

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It’s been more than 20 years since I last held a gun, but I think there are ways to do that (relatively) safely. If the safety were on, and there’s no bullet chambered, then I think accidental discharge should be pretty rare. Anyone who actually knows about this stuff can feel free to jump in & correct me

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Attempted second degree murder (in Michigan, we could tack on “with intent to do great bodily harm”), abuse of a minor, and multiple charges of assault (he threatened some of the other kids). That’s a one minute list.

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So, attempted abduction of a minor?

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I’d say so, definitely. Among other charges.

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  1. All guns are always loaded.
  2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
  3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
  4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

It’s bad enough that civilians often ignore the cardinal rules of gun safety. A cop ignoring them is both a piss-poor excuse for a police officer and a hazard to himself and others (including his fellow cops, who are more likely than most to be in range when he’s waving around an loaded and un-safed pistol with his finger on the trigger. Because let’s be clear about one thing, guns don’t shoot themselves. Someone has to press the trigger. To do that their finger has to be on the trigger.

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