Originally published at: https://boingboing.net/2019/01/15/parliament-to-vote-on-brexit-t.html
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Ha!
As a Brit I’m in the middle of this political hellscape.
IMO the most viable solution if the May Deal is defeated tonight is to postpone Article 50 and organise a referendum with three choices:
- The May Deal
- Hard Brexit
- Remain
There should be alternative preference voting so you rank your choices 1,2,3.
Unfortunately it’s going to be difficult to extend the suspension of Article 50 beyond July since there are new EU Parliamentary elections then and it would put the UK in the position of having to elect members to a body they will resign from a few weeks later (possibly.)
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T May : “Hold my beer!”
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Excellent, fantastic, highest points.
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OT, but gotta say I really like the ASCII-style table Rob, reminds me of the first wave of numbered-menu-driven GUI business apps, running on early IBM compatibles, often in greenscreen… the kind of thing a video shop employee would use in 1985, for example.
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The endless display of May’s particular brand of spiteful, mulish incompetence is getting very wearisome now.
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She is the epitome of Tory arrogance; it’s the may way or no way and that does not a good politician make. She is a terrible politician and I find her humanity lacking.
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I will bet a number of folks may have changed their mind about Brexit, so I hope you all do get a second referendum.
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Cute chart, but really it boils down to May’s deal or no deal. The other options don’t appear to have support (revoke) or any basis in reality (EU offers concessions.)
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The only trouble with the table is its content:
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║ Margin of Defeat ║ Possible Outcomes ║
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║ May wins ║ Frankenbrexit ║
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║ 50 votes or less ║ EU offers concessions ║
║ ║ Quick 2nd vote ║
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║ 50-100 votes ║ More negotiations ║
║ ║ Late 2nd vote ║
╠══════════════════╬══════════════════════════╣
║ 100+ votes ║ No deal Brexit ║
║ ║ Soft Brexit ║
║ ║ General election ║
║ ║ 2nd Referendum ║
║ ║ Vote of No Confidence ║
║ ║ Backbench rebellion ║
║ ║ Currency collapse ║
║ ║ Zombie horrorcaust ║
║ ║ Global Thermonuclear War ║
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The EU is NOT going to offer concession. There are no concession which would tame the Brexit-Nazis and the EU is still sane enough to be unwilling to sell out Ireland.
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I’m not sure you are right.
The block to negotiations and a better deal are May’s (Borrowed from UKIP) Red Lines.
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I am sitting in Germany atm. And was travelling back and forth between UK and Germany most of 2018.
I am right (for once in my life).
May’s red lines are posturing for her xenophobic & racist home audience.
The Four freedoms (movement / goods / capital / services) are not only red lines for the EU they are the foundations and absolute existential life blood of the EU. They are non-negotiable.
The Tories persist on pretending otherwise. But, that only works for their home audience.
Add Ireland into the mix and no, there will not be any meaningful concessions.
The good thing about the EU is that all this was transparently obvious two years ago. So there is that.
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Parliament has no support for No-Deal - parliament is sovereign. If that were attempted I would expect the Tory MP’s that are voting their own Government down in vast numbers tonight, will support a vote of no-confidence.
May has a minority government - She’s not act like that was the case, that is how we are at this point - She’s going to lose control of Brexit.
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A wiser man than me said on twitter:
Brexit is "The Conservative Party’s misadventure in imperial nostalgia being thwarted by Britain’s first colony.
We are witnessing the fall of Rom here and it is not fun. Especially, not for those of us who have financial and emotional stake in this show.
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The entire referendum, election campaign and Brexit “policy” has been to win back the xenophobes from UKIP, where they were heading in bigger numbers, along with some MPs. The Europe debate has almost always been framed by the self interest and in-fighting of the Conservative Party, and the main reason that their leaders fall.
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No Deal doesn’t need support. That’s the default. All it requires is a failure to do anything else, which is increasingly likely.
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Shorn of context and explanation, that is a terrible chart
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The entire Brexit debate in one (part) sentence.
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