Patagonia wants the outdoor industry to start a pro-public lands movement as powerful as the NRA


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there is a pretty good sub about this topic.



I was confused about BB giving positive coverage to an ostensibly Green initiative, but then I realized what Patagonia is on about is “outdoor recreation” not conservationism or environmentalism.


Oh, jeez, can people just not accept allies for good causes without going to such lengths to look a particular gift horse in the mouth?


Patagonia is correct, the outdoor rec industry dwarfs the gun industry, but doesn’t spend the same money on lobbying. Money is speech in the USA.

I guess you haven’t been paying attention. In modern Left politics: “the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, even more so if they’re undermining my message with a more moderate one”. Coalitions are made with people you mostly agree with, but great efforts are expended by groups to demonize anyone who varies from their orthodoxy.

It reminds me of this joke, voted the funniest religious joke of all time on some website. My Rabbi quoted it these past holidays.

Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!” He said, “Nobody loves me.” I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?”

He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too! What franchise?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!”

Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.” I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over.

Flags in 3-2-1…


Morning swim on vacation on Maui last week: an awesome experience in the water, the whole universe holding me bouyant, effortless freight train breath. At the outdoor shower, two ladies in their lace dresses, hawking brosures that say ‘Learn the truths of the Bible.’ All I wanted to say was ‘Learn to swim’


There you go:



That’s one of my favourite jokes on any subject; right up there with…

Holmes and Watson go camping. They pitch their tent on a remote hill and turn in for the night.

In the middle of the night, Holmes nudges Watson awake, and says, “Watson, look up. What do you see?”

“I see the stars, Holmes.”

“What does that make you think, Watson?”

“It makes me think that all those stars might be suns like ours, and that, out there in the glorious firmament there might be a world orbit one of those suns, and that, on that planet, there might be some alien Watson looking at the stars and thinking the same as me. What does it make you think, Holmes.”

“It makes me think some tosser has stolen our tent.”


Love that joke! To add a name to it, it comes from Emo Phillips.

I think it’s off the E=MO2 album.

He gets to that part at around 2:50


Another Emo Phillips joke; though this one probably isn’t appropriate in these days of random violence.

“I like going to the park and watching the children run around because they don’t know I’m using blanks.”

How innocent were those heady days of hair spray and shoulder pads, back in the 1980s.


Hmmm… I was actually intending to needle Cory and bOINGbOING, not Patagonia, more than anything. :slight_smile: But you’re right, I flung the net too wide.


If they want to be as powerful as the NRA, they’ll have to find something as profitable to sell as guns.

  • BB has always given positive coverage to green initiatives, so the reasons for your confusion are confusing to me.

  • Patagonia and its founder Yvon Chouinard have a record of supporting progressive causes going back decades. They are absolutely about conservation and environmentalism, and they walk the talk. (They have annoyed the Trump administration enough for the U.S. House Committee on Natural Resources to call for a boycott of a private company.) This article may help to lead you out of your confusion.

  • Patagonia specifically do not sell gear or clothing for motorized recreation. Is the image you posted intended to depict something related to the company? If so, it’s a Trump-level piece of lying bullshit. What are you trying to say?

By spreading misinformation? Nice try, comrade.


Nothing in that picture is from Patagonia, REI, or The North Face.


Do you need some help editing your /etc/hosts files?


Well, I’ve been here a long time, so I’ve seen all Cory’s comments about “hair shirt environmentalism” and Rob’s hit pieces on Jill Stein and the US Green Party, the constant dissing of Tesla, and so forth. It seems to me that BB mostly ignores green initiatives, unless they have a significant techno-cornucopianism aspect.

Exactly what I said. You didn’t need to reinterpret it in any way.

Absolutely true and a point worth making. Thanks.

Apparently. :slight_smile:

I got all my main systems, at least.


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