Police Chief says 12-year-old girls who take nude selfies are "guilty"

Responsibility, yes, But the consequences should be something like a severe talking to, not becoming a registered sex offender for the rest of her life…

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Obviously each child should be tried as an adult for taking illicit pictures of a minor, for good measure.

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What about the phone companies transferring the photos, storing copies in their caches, and the 3 letter agencies storing permanent archives of all these junior criminals’ communications?

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Yes, my quick and bad typing undid the sentence. sharing a photo of yourself is not nor should be a crime…perhaps stupid, ill advised, immature, dumb, unwise, foolish, or any other phrase we associate with a poor decision…but not a crime. Receiving said photo is not a crime either; however it becomes more of a grey area based on circumstance if it can be a chargeable offense or at the very least a serious issue (best example I can think of would be a minor 15 yr old sending a nude photo to a teacher…is the teacher responsible for any possible crime? could be yes, could be no …depending on the specific situation and circumstances, right?

When someone else takes a photo you sent them and then shares or distributes that without consent or knowledge or binding agreement…it is a crime. It doesn’t even have to be something illicit.

So I know we read things like this article and we start marking lines in the sand around specifics, but honestly 12, 11, 13, 15, it doesn’t matter. Under age is under age. I do not want my 15 yr old nor my 12 yr old nor my 8 yr old sending pics of themselves to anyone that they would not be willing to allow everyone to see. That is what I have taught them. When you share something like that in a digital space…you potentially share it with the world. Be smart. Be cautious.

And while i get some would argue that a 12 or 13 yr old should be allowed some freedom of exploration, my counter is feel free to raise your kids however you want. THAT is not how I raise mine. Good luck to anyone who does.

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I’m against mass domestic spying as well.

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Zero-Tolerance is Zero-Intelligence

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good insight !!

Do police have any real work to do? Or is it mainly just harassing and persecuting random people?

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This has two thinks that really get to me: the legal authority that telling girls not to be sluts or else they are asking for it, and that 12 year olds and 17 year olds continue to be lumped into the same damn group.

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gotta keep them “for profit” prisons full…it’s the economy !!

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in 10 years you might see if your way works…

Why are y’all dragging me into this discussion?

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“Sending naked selfies could end up ruining your life! To show you how true that is, we’re going to ruin your life for taking naked selfies…”

The problem is that children (boys and girls) who take naked pictures of themselves (which end up being seen by others, one way or another) get prosecuted as child abusers, even though they’re the children ostensibly being abused. They take the term “child pornographer” into the realm of double meanings.

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sure ought to be !
and the mirror shares the blame…bloody mirrors !!

Why do you keep saying “good luck raising your kids”? You seem to think that you’re the only one who knows how to raise children.

Of course he does. Like all slut-shamers and keepers of alleged public morality he (assuming) knows better how to act and naturally thinks everyone should defer to his authority on all things.

Its a common affliction. Like people who think abortion should be banned because all women who consider it are too morally corrupt to be capable of making decisions for themselves and about their bodies. So they should all just swear their fealty to the self righteous busybody in such matters.

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fruch him !

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You are expecting a 12 year old to have the wisdom and experience of an adult.

It seems a lot of adults forget that children don’t work that way. Children tend to want to explore and discover things for themselves – regardless of how many times adults tell them otherwise.

Why do think teenagers rebel?

Why do you think the ones that go the wildest tend to come from strict backgrounds?

Ultimately, as adults we should do our best to make ourselves heard but rather than say “Well maybe if you weren’t a dirty skank.” When the shit hits the fan, we should be there to help them pick up the pieces so they don’t grow up to be neurotic or traumatised messes.

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I can think of would be a minor 15 yr old sending a nude photo to a teacher…is the teacher responsible for any possible crime?

What is a teacher doing giving their cell phone or e-mail address to students? If they are doing that, they are already inviting untoward contact with the students and open themselves up to penalties for whatever stuff the student sends them.

I would find it kind of icky for adults to have teenagers or pre-teens on their cell phone who they are not related to.

That is one of the methods of communicating with your teacher these days - they are on all the course outlines. As for cell number in some circumstances that is given in others not that seems to depend on the circumstances of communication that might be needed. (i.e. more likely on school trips)

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Yes. The kid has turned in his homework this way. So far all I have seen is their school email address not a personal one, which yes should not be just given out to the students.

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