That there does seem to be the root of the problem. Looks like moving the goalposts.
Never going to happen though.
So? How much better would soccer be with a bigger goal? Make the games score high enough that bad umpire decisions donāt make all the difference, and poof - no more soccer riots.
If itās broke, fix it.
Stop, that makes way too much sense.
The money is always all in keeping the status quo just as it is, not fixing any problems.
I was talking about the original post of the cartoon, not yours - @Mausium put that up, not me. I donāt feel like I called you stupid or made fun of you at all. Iāve attempted to have a measured conversation with you, as youāve asked. If you donāt think Iāve done that, well, please point out where Iāve gone over the line, Iāll look at it and see if I have.
Youāre entitled to your opinion of course, and I strongly disagree with it. I think we can agree to disagree on that. I happen to feel that āpolitical correctnessā as @anon75430791 discussed at the beginning is indeed used as means to discredit people pushing for a more equitable society. You disagree, and think itās used as a weapon against men and whites, then fine. I strongly disagree with that. Clearly, Iām not going to change your mind on that and thatās fair enough.
Last, I would really appreciate it if you got my fucking name correct. Itās not Mandy, itās Mindy. If you cantā be bothered to give me the basic respect of GETTING MY NAME CORRECT, then we really are done here.
Oh, I get it. You crazy feminazis hate men so much YOU WONāT EVEN ALLOW A MAN IN YOUR NAME.
But is āitā even a cohesive thing? It isnāt like thereās a department of political correctness (at least with that name) through which all complaints are handled. Can it rename itself, when itās been named and (deliberately vaguely) categorized by opponents who invented their own enemy?
Language cudgels are language cudgels, and self-appointed people call this cudgeling āPC.ā Quite often they are wrong in this labelling, sometimes they are right. But āPolitical correctnessā doesnāt have clear opponents and proponents the way that the āAnti-PCā rhetoricians would like to imagine (or, at least have others imagine). Bringing it up in this way is merely to try to make a brickman out of the strawman they themselves have invented.
If youāll see my reply down below, I was referring to the original posting of the comic, not his repost.
Also, my name is Mindy, not Mandy. But you know, all us women look alike, especially those of us who are shrill members of the PC police!
Actually purposefully misstating someoneās name is a trick to make them feel less than and throw them off their game. I hope thatās not what heās doing, and will give him the benefit of the doubt thatās it was a slip of the keyboard. Then again, the A and I are on opposite sides of the keyboard hereā¦
Mandyā¦Man die?
Can we (and Iām asking, not demanding) cut singleton some slack?
Heās a young guy ā from his other posts heās apparently still living with his mom and step-dad. Thereās a lot of learning we all did at that age, and beyond.
Heās an active participant in other areas on the forum, and - I think - fitting in, generally.
Iām not saying āgive him a free passā, heās been quite rude in this thread! ā but can we remember our target audience, and not carpet-bomb him with our displeasure?
Is this a condescending attitude towards singleton? Yeah, I guess so. In the sense that I donāt think his mind has ossified as much as ours (generally speaking, as I believe āweā [posters in this thread except for singleton] areā¦ somewhat older on a range). Iād certainly approach his (yours, if youāre still reading this thread!) posts differently if he were 46 years old, say.
She wants to keep the use of man to the bare min.
Okay, you guys are funnyā¦ can we stop now.
Paging Occamā¦
Paging Hanlonā¦
You mean more than individuals like myself have already given him?
Nope.
Want some basic respect?
The benefit of the doubt?
To be treated as a unique yet imperfect individual who has their own valid perspective?
Then thatās exactly how one should treat others.
You get out whatever youāve put in.
The frustrating thing is that the people who use the phrase have no clue what it means, nor do they care. They create a conspiracy and no amount of logic can dissuade, theyāll continue arguing against something that only exists in their head and ignore you, or (irony of ironies) get whiny and offended when you donāt respect their opinion. They want to sit at the adults table while being able to make all manner of juvenile ājokesā with the smug ālighten up, libāruls!ā rictus.
Their discussion of the āunfairnessā of social consequences for certain speech would seem to indicate that they donāt understand free as in legal is not the same as free from judgment, when 99% of the time their prize choice of speech is also judging someone else, the ability to lie without being called out publicly, or the attempt to push through anti-science narratives. For that reason, conservative political think tanks love to get Libertarians, āindependentsā and self proclaimed Republicans riled up about āPC fascismā, because they get their mouthpieces to sell their lobbyist trash for them, astroturfing all the way while the lay think themselves freedom-fighters and ruggedly independent thinkers.
Paging Mr. Hermanā¦
I was going to launch into something about the phrase being so flexible that it means very little, but I think @ActionAbe already has it covered. To the extent that āPCā actually means anything, it tells you more about the tribal affiliations of the speaker than anything that the phrase purports to describe directly
Specifically, the liberals that supposedly use it as their bible donāt ever use the phrase beyond responding to attacks, ala SJW.
Itās very existence is a lame cudgel for which to attack.