Pretty sure 'The Alchemist' graphic novel was illustrated for the male gaze

I had never heard of that. Lee Dorsey is spinning in is grave.

Or if not the original, at least go with:

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Lee Dorsey’s version is the best.

Counterpoint though, I probably never would have heard it without the Devo introduction.

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Those first two look like Richard Corben, and since it’s in Heavy Metal, I’m assuming it’s Den?

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So bizarre that John Candy is the voice actor here.

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I have long held the opinion that, when it comes to comics, “Rated “A” For Adult” should read “Rated “A” For Adolescent”.

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I’m unsure why you’re replying to me with that? :woman_shrugging:

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Just thought it was a similar joke to the one that you had “cracked”, that’s all. Nothing more and nothing less than that.

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Crazy Ex Girlfriend Yes GIF

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Seems pretty appropriate given how awful the original book is too.

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not to be that guy - but the panels you presented are dealing with Narcissus and Nyads and the contemplation of inner and outer beauty and what that does to us…so while the panels have that lurid 90’s style…its not the whole book by any means and it was to serve a point on behalf of the story. This said, I don’t care - the book itself is stupid pop psychology and no doubt so is the graphic novel. Only point is that this is selective reviewing at its finest.

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Which is specifically for the male gaze… This just being a portion doesn’t negate that.

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I think the trick is to get the artist into making graphic novels before drawing comics breaks their spirit.

The problem I see is that comic book artists are held to a sort of franchise level, where the art still needs to be repeatable and the artist isn’t really supposed to have a unique style. No Hergé, no Moebius, no Albert Uderzo, no Richard Corben or Mike Mignola in making Marvel or DC. The publishers are afraid of readers abandoning if the artist goes to a different shop, like how Jack Kirby went to DC for a while.

Another thing is that comics like this are not really well adapted to the new medium, and don’t really tell the story well using the mix of prose and illustration, often just illustrating the prose.

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Did she say that? She was clearly speaking about those panels specifically…

what argument? That these panels are for the male gaze? The entire work does not negate that. You even note that. Also, she’s not even particularly mad about it… she’s just pointing it out…

This isn’t about winning. It’s about better understanding a piece of culture. If you’re upset by criticism, then maybe don’t read posts that bring up criticisms of culture?

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I read The Fountainhead many years ago, and that was more than enough for me.

The topic is NOT the entirety of the artist’s body of work.

The topic at hand is The Alchemist series.

Too late.

Attempt to move goal posts denied.

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Not only that, about half of the SCTV cast at the time did voice work on it… also Eugene Levy, Harold Ramis, Joe Flaherty… Aside from the adolescent aspects, HM (the movie) had a ton of little easter eggs in it.

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Her book about writing is hilarious

Is it “donas I say, not as I do” like all her other writing?

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A combination of stuff you would learn in creative writing 101, combined with extolling her own writing style, which should be emulated, even though it’s bad. She doesn’t say that last part, that’s me editorializing

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Hadn’t seen the HM movies since the time it was in the theaters. My local library was selling a copy for a buck not too long ago so I went for it. It did not hold up well. I’m really glad I never sprang for the Blue Ray edition.