Not to mention the guy could have had colitis in the rectum. Without the doctors knowing his medical background, they could have perforated his GI tract. This is so barbaric. What the hell is going on with this country? Has it always been this shitty and we’re just hearing more of it with the intartubes? Or has it somehow gotten worse in the last 20 years?
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So sad–you won’t let us abuse our authority and your Hippocratic oath to try to find a miniscule amount of narcotics, so we might just let you die when you need our help.
I suppose you could have told them, “Yeah, well, should you ever come in here with a bullet wound, we’re all gonna be on break.”
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It just irked me that the transcription and URL use “saying” instead of “things.” It makes no sense!
No, totally disagree.
I would argue this is the case. Following the crack wars of the 90’s, police militarization became both more common, and more romanticized. You now have a legal system which largely allows even the most egregious police violations of civil rights without penalty to the officers involved. The outcome here is that people that are evil, sadistic, controlling, etc are now firmly entrenched within the law enforcement infrastructure - what better possible place in life could they find for themselves?
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Do you remember the SLA shootout? or the bombing of the MOVE building in Philly?
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I was too young to follow news during the Patty Hearst saga, I vaguely remember that MOVE bombing from my teens… '86 or so? And the rest of what I remember about MOVE is due to research on Mumia, not MOVE per se.
Any involuntary procedure is a violation. Repeat invasive procedures, yeah, that’s rape. And don’t even go there with me. Mind your assumptions, friend.
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Just older examples of the Popo acting f’ed up.
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It certainly is not a phenom unknown before the early 90’s. I think the “zero tolerance” drug laws just kicked it into high gear - that’s when I remember the all swat, all no-knock warrants beginning among other serious erosions of civil rights. It may simply be a distorted view.
Edit: by beginning I mean - beginning to become the always used technique. A regular, hear about it so often it’s just normal thing.
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You can disagree with people but be careful on assumption making and blanket statements.
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Without giving away any kind of information about this, nobody went to the ACLU, but this incident in particular was reported to the authorities in both the hospital and the police department and there do seem to be some real changes happening because of the reporting. If such behavior continues, going further up the chain may be warranted.
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You don’t want my DNA I assure you.
I have to disagree with this. Yes, it was unprofessional of them to abuse their authority and say they wouldn’t be willing to help us in the future when we are in danger, but it would be absolutely wrong for anyone in the ER to propagate that attitude forward.
The emergency department needs to be held as a sacred space. There is a lot of chaos and drama that happens sure, but the basic ideal is that absolutely everyone that comes into the ER has the right to receive care whether or not I agree with their politics, their religious beliefs, their stance on gun control, their stance on abortion, their health insurance or ability or even willingness to pay me for my services during the ER visit. Just because that officer insinuated that he would rather not help me out if I was under attack doesn’t mean that I will not do everything in my power to help him if he comes into my ER as a patient.
I have the honor and privilege try and help out people at a time in their lives when they need help the most. It’s a damn good job and I’m very lucky to get to do it for a living. If I wasn’t doing my best for ALL patients, even those who have wronged me in the past, then I am not giving the profession the kind of dedication it deserves.
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Thank you Doctor both for taking a stand and for sharing. Sad that apparently ‘doing the job you’d trained to do while upholding the spirit as well as the words of the oath you swore on graduation’ is enough to make me happy instead of just shrug and assume that’s how things are you want a cookie or something for that?
I can think of nothing to add to your emergency room statement as you seem to have nailed it on the head.
Honestly, I think it HAS gotten significantly worse over the past 20 years, and went into a warp-speed descent into hell after 9/11. . .
Now EVERY Police Department has a SWAT team, and they use it more and more to justify funding them at ever-higher levels. Police Departments are getting LRAPs and APCs. EVERY Federal Agency now has cops and a SWAT Team. WHY does the Social Security Administration NEED armed agents ? Why does the Department of Education have a SWAT team . . .
And look at the cops these days. . . .a lot less of the “Officer Friendly” I grew up with (I may have dated myself: I was a kid in the 60s and 70s. . .) and more of the “Respect Mah Authoritay!” types. . .
Got it. I didn’t really read the transcription, Cartman’s voice is where the real magic lies.
And it happened again!
Entirely different victim, but many of the same police department and medical institution personnel are the same.
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3210356.shtml?cat=500#.UnvjlPnBN8H
Edit: Also, same drug dog.
More details emerging - the dog involved was not certified to have any capability to detect drugs… It had been trained for drug detection at one point, but the training wasn’t kept current, therefore it could easily give false positives.
Also, they’ve done this whole traffic stop / enema / quasi-rape / find no drugs routine to more than one person! They didn’t even learn anything from the first failed investigation, they repeated those actions on another schmoe / victim they stopped for a traffic violation. I mean come on. At some point it crosses any pretence of being legitimate.
Those people need to be struck off as doctors and / or as police officers.
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From your link:
The doctors from the Gila Regional Medical Center have been turned over to the state licensing board. It's possible they could lose the ability to practice medicine. And the police officers will be answering to a law enforcement board.
Best news I’ve read all day.
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