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Anchovy Chase!? Is this guy a genius?
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Were you not previously aware of Andy Zaltzman?
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What if you know who wargs into you know who on GOT?
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CAN’T YOU USE A G*****D SPOILER TAG?!?!?!??
How is that a spoiler,when no names were used and it doesn’t refer to anything that’s happened?
How do I do a spoiler tag?
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Don’t we live in an uncertain reality?
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But isn’t this exactly why I called it an example of structural racism? And isn’t pointing to the profit motive behind a decision that is racist in its effect evidence that the the decision itself is not necessarily racism on the part of the individual, but rather racism on the part of the institution?
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But yes, that’s still racism, isn’t it? And it’s still someone making a decision, based on the perception that white audiences won’t go see a film without a white protagonist (and hence won’t make money) and that the race of the characters don’t matter, but only when the character in question is a POC? Even if it’s an institution, aren’t human beings, with agency, still making up those institutions and making decisions that have consequences for actual individuals? Isn’t the way to deal with structural racism to begin with is by having the people who make up the institutions start making decisions that challenge that structural racism?
Is it just me, or is it hard to make these points in question form?
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But won’t the result be that the movie simply won’t be made, but the problem won’t go away? Is the problem that we want to solve not that we don’t want to see white artists playing POC, but rather that the industry should be opened up so that all actors can compete for roles on an even footing? What is the lesson to be gleaned from the fact that the excellent Indian film industry and Korean TV industry, both populated by fantastic actors, have 20% more viewers than their Hollywood counterparts but still gross less money?
Can I say I agree with you that this inquisitional form not only makes articulating ideas difficult, and add that it also is exhausting?
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Could we posit though that the effort to place things in question form produces kinder, gentler disagreements on average though?
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it also is exhausting?
Yes, but won’t it be exhausted only when there are no questions left?
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That’s not even possible, is it?
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Then hadn’t we better get busier?
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Isn’t this an enduring motto of mine?
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Why can’t I vote on the ‘kiss and make up’ poll? (I was going for ‘super yes’ btw, and particularly looking forward to the ‘make up’ portion of the outcome. Which involved a lot of cosmetics in my imagination.)
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Yes, but it’s also true that the problem has historically been black/brown/yellow face and demeaning roles for POC, right? [quote=“d_r, post:1066, topic:76536”]
What is the lesson to be gleaned from the fact that the excellent Indian film industry and Korean TV industry, both populated by fantastic actors, have 20% more viewers than their Hollywood counterparts but still gross less money?
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Wouldn’t I agree that it has to do with the power of the American state to open up foreign markets for our cultural products in the first place, which has given Hollywood an unfair advantage in a global marketplace for films and the perception that Hollywood makes “universal” films? Also, didn’t Hollywood have a huge head start?
Wouldn’t I agree with this partial, but at the same time, the decisions made on the production end aren’t necessarily ours, but are made by assumptions about what we’ll consume?
I don’t know - should it be unrealistic to expect people to sometimes do the right thing? What about TV shows that are wildly popular with stars that are POC, such as Scandal or How To Get Away with Murder - not to mention Empire? What about the powerhouse that is Shondaland? Or shows that have casts that aren’t all white, such as Walking Dead or GOT?
Don’t I agree and don’t I also think that speaking out about white-washed casting is part of the solution?
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Why are all the polls in this thread broken?
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