You’re a meanie.
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Don’t you sometimes want to reread it all from the top just to stay refreshed on everything that’s going on here?
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Comment 428.
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Ramses II wasn’t all that great, he just had a great PR/public-works department.
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If Ramses II had just invested his father’s wealth in an ancient Egyptian index fund he’d have been wealthier, though he sued every Hittite or Assyrian who mentioned this.
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Thanks for the post, you are right about trees being a big part of many religious mythologies. I have had friends of mine who also cite the similarities between Proverbs and other African-Kemtic (Egyptian) sources, as well as Confucianism, Buddhism and other Eastern (Asian) religious sources. There are a lot of interesting quotes on wisdom, values, morality, human conduct, and life to be found in Proverbs.
From The Quotations Page and From BrainyQuote.com
“Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.”–Confucius
“I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand”–Confucius
“The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man understands what will sell.”-- Confucius
“Do not impose on others what you yourself do not desire.”–Confucius
“What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others.”–Confucius
“To know what you know and what you do not know, that is true knowledge.”–Confucius
“Men’s natures are alike, it is their habits that carry them far apart.”–Confucius
“Faced with what is right, to leave it undone shows a lack of courage.”–Confucius
“Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up every time we do.”–Confucius
'Respect yourself and others will respect you."–Confucius
“Study the past if you would define the future.”–Confucius
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You are right about sacred trees.
The two sacred trees in the Garden of Eden aside–I have always been suspect about the Garden of Eden myth.
“The Bible is a book that has been read more, and examined less, than any book that ever existed.”-- Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine was an author, journalist, intellectual, radical, revolutionist, as well as a founding father. Paine was the intellectual voice of the American Revolution. Thomas Paine was one of the few founding fathers who spoke out openly about the hypocrisy of wanting freedom from Great Britain while simultaneously enslaving Africans.
Paine wrote the revolutionary pamphlets that sparked the American Revolution. Thomas Paine’s intellectual and philosophical genius can be considered the equivalent to (then) General George Washington’s military genius. Thomas Paine’s then controversial book “The Age of Reason” 1794-1795 was written by Paine to reveal his disbelief in institutional religion.
One myth in the religious books of Judaism and Christianity that has been read by many but examined by few is the myth of the Garden of Eden.
Genesis 2:11–15
- The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12. And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. 13. And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. 14. And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates. 15. And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
The Garden of Eden is no normal size garden. This myth about the Garden of Eden is hard to believe given the rivers that define the boundaries of the Garden of Eden. It would be impossible for a man, even with the help of a woman to dress and keep up a garden of this enormous size.
In the before mentioned scriptures about the boundaries of the Garden of Eden, we can be sure that one river encompassing the whole land of Ethiopia, had to be the Nile River. The second river we can be sure of is the Euphrates River, which runs from Turkey to the Persian Gulf.
The Nile River is approximately 4,100 miles long and the Euphrates River is approximately 1,700 miles long. So we can say that Adam and Eve had to dress, and keep a garden that was approximately 5,800 miles in length. This is not including the area covered by the other two rivers mentioned in Genesis.
Maybe a more believable myth would be when Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil; they weren’t kicked out; but they decided to leave the Garden of Eden. Maybe they decided to leave the Garden of Eden because they thought it was impossible to dress and keep a garden—while they themselves were undressed and nude. How many people would like that job, being undressed and nude trying to dress and keep a garden that is almost twice the horizontal length of the United States of America with no other help.
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This thread fuckin’ delivers in every way possible. I learn, I laugh, I groan, I dread, I love, and I feel loss.
It’s like every emotion ever, mixed into a South East Asian inspired fettucine gumbo topped with sushi and corn tortillas.
And because it makes me so happy, I’m gonna wear fancy socks today.
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Keeping with the subject of sacred trees and the Garden of Eden; their are several trees associated with being sacred in the religious mythology of Africa-Kemet/Anu.
As I mentioned in a previous post about the African-Kemetic/Anu creator god Atum, Iusaaset was worshipped as the shadow wife of Atum of the Heliopolis Ennead. in myth Iusaaset was also considered the grandmother of all the gods and goddesses. The myth of Iusaaset was also associated with the acacia tree, considered in Africa-KemetAnu as the “Tree of Life.”
The acacia tree is an amazing tree, like the use of animals in African-Kemtic/Anu religious mythology, if one uses education to understand the attributes and characteristics of the animals, in this case the acacia tree, one can understand why the animals, in this case the acacia tree; are used and what symbolic message is being conveyed.
As mentioned the acacia tree is an amazing tree, referred to in African-Kemetic/Anu myth as the Tree of Life, it can be used as a food source in soups, sauces and syrups, it can be used for its medicinal properties; used as tree gum and sap; used as tannin (complex phenolic resins used in tanning and in medicine); used in perfumes; wood and paints.
As it relates to the Garden of Eden, the acacia tree (“tree of life”) can be used as ornamentals in gardens. There are several types used to decorate and dress gardens.
http://www.canadianflowerdelivery.com/acacia-flower.aspx
https://www.cloverleaffarmherbs.com/acacia/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/life/Acacia
“And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it” (Genesis 2:15).
Several other types of trees and plants were sacred in Africa-Kemet/Anu: sycamore, tamarisk, myrrh, willow, palm, lotus, persea and evergreens (associated Osiris whose symbolic color was green and associated with everlasting life and renewal because evergreen trees have green leaves in all seasons.
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An excellent question: if God created Adam and Eve and gave them stewardship over the Garden of Eden, why are there no mentions of topiary sculptures in the Bible?
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They probably couldn’t agree on which trees/bushes to use, or which cutting methods would be the best, so the topiaries probably didn’t look nice enough to warant a mention in the old testament.
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