I guess that depends on perspective; that weather looks pretty great to me, and I could use some of that right now. (Without the active shooter.)
It also depends on the day. I have been there in winter and it is gorgeous - but itās just a bright, sunny, but cold - day. When it is storming it can be bad. But right now everything where I am in covered in ice so, YMMV.
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And from the beeb: Planned Parenthood shooting: Suspect said āno more baby partsā:
Iāve said it before, and Iāll say it again. The fox news type a-holes who whip up the mouth frothing conservative masses bear at least some of the responsibility for this. If I stand on street corner with a megaphone in downtown L.A. yelling that āThe Manā is keeping everyone down, and the only way to survive is to kill all cops, and an idiotic listener does exactly that, then Iām getting prosecuted as an accessory.
If some right wing group edits a video to make fetal tissue donation for research seem a lot worse than it really is, then spoon feeds it to a number of conservative groups who then preach the gospel of āLiberal baby killers!!!ā, and some less than stable a-hole like this one goes out and shoots up a planned parenthood, well, hey, freedom of speech right?
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Yeah, but you wouldnāt know it from the 24/7 āfearfearfearā news cycle, and the āend of timesā religious BS that is getting shat around (and yes, I actually do know someone who honestly believes that weāre living in the āend timesā, but strangely, he still bothered to reproduce, and wonāt give me all of his material goods. WTF? How could you possibly need those if Jesus will be here any day now?)
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Hey, people still need to be comfortable somehow, even when theyāve got their head wedged up their end times.
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Heh, even my suggestion that he do exactly what Jesus said, and sell all of his goods to donate to the poor seemed to fall on deaf earsā¦ I mean if you KNOW that the world is ending, why would you possibly need anything more than what is needed for maintenance?
But of course, though people have been preaching the āend timesā bit for thousands of years, and we have yet to wellā¦ end, you think people would finally wise up to the scam. Itās too bad that I have a shred of ethics or Iād be fleecing the masses with the oldest (yet proven) tricks in the book.
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Planned Parenthood suspect mentioned āno more baby parts,ā official says
This increasingly looks like some of the Republicans who spread lies about Planned Parenthood have blood on their hands.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/09/27/3706123/carly-fiorina-defends-abortion-comments/
The right wing continues to be a dangerous plague upon this nation and Earth.
VOTE locally, statewide and nationally. Stop the plague.
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And. This. Act. Was. Designed. To. Terrorise. The. People. Who. Work. And. Support. Planned. Parenthood.
I figured you might need that spelled out for you in easy to digest pieces.
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All lives matter! Stop this massacre of innocents!
Seriously, fuck these guys and their self righteous violence.
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I agree. Iām just going to say what everyone else is thinking:
We must stop any further influx of these white Christian men into our country.
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You re-asserting it to be the case does not make it easier to digest, nor more clear to understand. Why do you assume that the guy didnāt want to simply stop them from doing what they are doing, regardless of how they felt? Isnāt that more probable?
And why should this distinction matter? How does it make more sense to consider this an emotional problem than a tactical one? I explained that I become suspicious when people insist that an event needs to be framed in a certain context, and you are not offering any more involved explanation.
What is with the odd punctuation?
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So your thought is that he went in there, shooting people, just to stop them from doing what they were doing for that short period. No goal whatsoever beyond that moment, no hope or desire to impact planned parenthood as a whole.
āNo more baby partsā was clearly followed by āā¦until Iām gone, then you can proceed again as though nothing has happenedā.
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Why are you saying that I think this? I never said anything of the kind. I am not jumping to any conclusions.
But I think that it is odd that when I ask somebody why it should be labelled āterrorismā, and what difference that makes, that people simply repeat it, or resort to asking me to put forth an alternate framing. Somebody said it should be seen that way, and I asked why. And you donāt seem to be offering a cogent explanation for doing so.
I am not the one who was insisting that people should adopt a specific (and rhetorically loaded) frame of reference for thinking about the event. I asked for an explanation of why I should. Making the discussion into being about me does not explain this. If the reasoning is so obvious, then it should be easy to discuss without dancing around the issue.
Unfortunately, they are coming from INSIDE THE COUNTRY!!!
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If a listener does āexactly that,ā there wonāt be anyone to arrest you.
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The reason it is terrorism is because it causes rational people/doctors/nurses to install bullet resistant glass, not reveal where they work, and have the opportunity to bolt past protesters who are complaining violently about something legal for what, half a century?
Criminal: check.
Terrorist: check.
Pick your terminology, they are equally as accurate in this case.
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Could you provide a few examples of this, that you are referring to? In the US? because we donāt arrest people for saying that other people should be killed.
Help them plan, give them guns, surely that is material accessory, but bad ideas are not illegal here. Sharing them from your soapbox is not against the law.
Last time I checked the ones encouraging the murder of abortion providers were too busy endorsing presidential candidates to get arrested for their free speech.
Can do!
The question you are asking was in the news in the last few years. One person got so bullied he killed himself. The criminal charge against the bully was negligent homocide, if I am recalling the right case.
Gary Ralph Ilmanen
General Practice Lawyer
Perris, CA
Posted on Apr 6, 2014
Yes, depending on the state you are in, and the victim is in. It could be more than manslaughter. You may wish to consult with a MO criminal defense attorney on this.
I am an Attorney-at-Law, licensed to practice law only in the state of California. Unless we have both signed a formal retainer agreement, you are not my client, and my discussion of issues does not constitute legal advice. Opinions expressed herein are those of the author, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of those who hold other opinions.
Why would I play semantics with you over my choice of response to someone elses violence.
Who are these āpeopleā who āsimply repeat it or as you to put forth an alternate framig?ā. Are any of them online and could you provide a link so weāre not boxing with strawmwmen?
Your labeling of other people as 'odd; is a bit provocative. Are you being potentially provocative in this way, towards a goal? Tell me of that goal,please, without involving me as your interlocutoer lead along a Socratic path to wisdom, because I am not a student and you are not a Socrates. We can agree on that.
What is your point?
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Sure, I donāt deny that that is awful. I grew up thinking of society as being a sort of anomie of information warfare between conflicting ideologies, so this sort of thing seems not unexpected. Itās obviously preferable to not need to fight to survive and help people as one feels one should, although it often cannot be helped.
I think that what bothers me about the term āterrorismā is that it robs the victims of agency, and I have trouble understanding why anyone who is sympathetic would choose to do that. It is tragic if somebody attacks you, but you donāt have any control over that. But when a crime is an emotion, a feeling such as āterrorā, people are giving up their ability to choose how to respond. It goes against modern health understanding to insist that others are reflexively responsible for how one feels and responds to a situation. Having the act defined in terms of your response is bad law, and encourages peopleās feelings of helplessness. Which is exactly the sort of āhelpā that people who are under attack donāt need. If people are trying to kill you, what you need most are options.
