REI has stopped ordering products made by an assault-style rifle manufacturer

Getting hung up on terminology is a recent development.

from https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/health/ar15-rifle-history-trnd/index.html

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Indeed. It’s not the second law of thermodynamics. It’s the second amendment to, as I’ve pointed out elsewhere here, what amounts to a political manifesto.

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Nothing in there about banning the possession of child porn either but we did it anyway. Think about what a gross trespass of our natural rights that is, possessing an image is illegal. We were faced with a serious problem and we came up with an imperfect yet pragmatic solution, as advanced democracies do. The authors of the constitution would be appalled by people treating it as immutable in the face of new technologies and attitudes.

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Near-zero gun deaths? Yes, please! More Australia for me, my family, and almost everyone I know. The only people who think Australia’s gun laws have changed it for the worse have never lived there.

I would argue that the Declaration of Independence was the political manifesto and the Constitution is the rule book (a rule book which has already been updated 27 times).

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Of the two assault rifles on the Guns & Ammo cover, neither are ARs. The one on the right is a WW2 German MP44.

How about we make all of the people that buy AR-15s and M-4 and the like firearms … how’s about we make them all put a sticker on their car of Calvin peeing on something so we can identity them.

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Yes, bump stocks where used in the Vegas shooting. Feel fee to follow those links for your edification.

In fact every AR 15 had a bump stock and there were fourteen of them.

They also all had vertical forward grips to facilitate bump stock automatic firing.

Get your hearing checked because that was the sound of a bump stock being used in Vegas

Did you really come to BB and sign up for an account just to spread misinformation like a Russian trolley?

I completely agree that it can be changed and in response to this idea from you and others I would remind you that calling for a constitutional convention to change or overturn the 2nd may not end well for us. Remember, such a convention isn’t called so that only issue X can be addressed. Once a convention convenes lawmakers are free to change any part of our constitution. They could make citizens united part of our constitution. They could eliminate term limits, due process laws, etc etc. So, unless you implicitly trust our current government to always do the right thing for the benefit of the people and not their corporate masters, a constitutional convention is a very risky endeavor.

There is something very real and within the power of our government which can be done. There is no restriction on our government passing laws to limit the sale of bullets. We can implement severe restrictions on the sale of ammunition to something like 10 rounds per house with additional rounds being provided to hunters when they buy their hunting licence for the year. Gun ranges can be be allowed to sell for use on site rounds as well. This move completely sidesteps the protections of the 2nd and addresses the current glut of firearms currently available by denying them ammo.

A Constitutional Convention is just one possible way to amend the Constitution, but it has never been used for this purpose. It is not needed if 2/3 of both houses of Congress agree to the change. While we are at it, could we also institute the direct election of the president?

I knew the guy that wrote that filk! Don’t know the performers here, though.

Soo stealing the Gun Nutz image!

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