Reporter and cameraman murdered by gunman live on air

I think you need to take a closer look at @JonS’s avatar…

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Like this guy yesterday, the killers will get more calculated and find the perfect unarmed, disarmed moment to strike.

genuine question:
Doesn’t the 2nd amendment give the right to “arms”? If so, as long as, say, swords are still available, shouldn’t banning guns be fine?

Nope - a gun levels the field. A large angry youth with a gun is = to a frail old man with a gun. A large angry youth with a sword versus a frail old man with a sword = not a fair fight.

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“God made people strong and weak. Samuel Colt made them equal.”

Your proposal is giving unfair advantage to the younger, physically fit ones.

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Ban kitchen knives to save lives, says doctor

A frail old man with a gun is still going to have slower reaction times compared to that large angry youth. The large angry youth can also handle recoil better, etc etc. Maybe a bit closer to a level field, but still not really 100% level.

And the government, with their advanced weaponry, is to your average citizen (with a consumer-available gun) what that large angry youth with the sword is to that frail old man with the sword.

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I find it such a weird system where the Constitution is often seen in a fundamentalist sense - it may be completely counter-productive and not particularly applicable to modern life, in addition to destroying so many lives inside and outside the US, but the important thing is that the literal meaning is maintained, right?

Most shooters seem to be on the younger side, so that logic doesn’t seem to work as well in practice.

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But only the 2nd Amendment (and maybe the 1st). I mean, screw the 14th, that one’s annoying. And the 4th? Pfft, who cares about that one?

Weird to feel that you can’t change something that’s already an amendment, anyway.

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Well, when were fundamentalists ever consistent? :wink:

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Ideologically, if not cognitively.

As one neither younger nor stronger I am in favor of having the power equalizers available even to the weaker ones.

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What on earth does that have to do with anything? The amendment talks about the right to bear arms, not some imaginary right you just made up about always being equal in a fight.

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Well thats a bullshit argument if ever i heard one

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It’s a delicious argument for mecha suits.

May I ask why?

A little old lady with a 16ga shotgun (light, with lightweight ammo to lower the kick, gas-operated semiauto to further reduce the felt recoil) has enough stopping power to face a meth-wired youth at his physical prime.

Now try the same scene, this time with a sword.

I am all for. I want a mecha suit. Or any kind of powered exoskeleton.

No. Because that’s just stupid. Get the fuck rid of the fucking guns.

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Please explain why.

Why so emotional? Running out of arguments?

You want a militia made up of little old ladies?

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Nope, just sick and tired of fuckheads justifying murder

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