It is not about the quality of people, it is about logistics and supply. Lets say the lights go out for a couple of months. I don’t know why. I have a well, and can keep the water pressure to the house as long as I can keep the generator running. After that, I have a nice cold river running through the property, full of trout. Long term, I have cows, horses to ride, and a vegetable garden. We have a septic system, although it might need a bucket of water per flush. We have an infinite amount of firewood. Life would suck, but we would get along.
In the city, you immediately lose refrigeration, air conditioning, and flush toilets. The restaurants close when the fresh food runs out, and you pretty quickly have to rely on the National Guard or someone like that to bring you rations. Maybe you have a pantry full of canned food. That is great, except that some people do not. When they get hungry, your canned artichokes are going to be pretty appealing. You could plant a garden in the park, but you would have to guard it. I don’t know what you would do for water. probably the national guard again. How many people can they feed in the long term? I have no idea. I think city living probably loses it’s appeal after a little bit of that. It would seem logical that people would head to rural areas, looking for places with crops, livestock, and drinkable water. And I doubt that if the farmer says “sorry, we only have enough for ourselves”, that would be an acceptable answer.
I understand that anything like this is super unlikely to happen anytime soon. I spend little to no time worrying about it. I am more concerned with losing power locally due to snow, which happens pretty regularly.
And just FYI, I haven’t watched many videos, but I did watch one titled “THIS ISNT A NORMAL GUN. AT ALL. WTF JUST HAPPENED???” - and yes - it is a “normal” gun. I can’t tell if it is something small like a the AR-15 (.223) or AK-74, or larger like an AR-10 (.308), AK-47, FAL, etc. But it is a standard magazine fed semi-auto rifle. Nothing weird about it. Could even be an old cheap SKS converted to accept magazines. The funky sound comes from all the echoes from buildings. So - just some FYI.
OH it’s bullshit on its own. But it’s disingenuous to point out this action as if it is a response or in anyway related to the other issue.
I am sure a Democrat somewhere picked up a birthday cake for an office party. Doesn’t mean that was a response or “action took” in response to “the greatest killing of 1st responders since 9/11”.
I read a short time ago that as sides are drawn on political issues and other topics, eventually the two sides stop arguing between each other, and just argue amongst themselves about just how bad the other side is. This creates a feedback loop that is just going to increasingly widen the gap between two groups, leading to more conflict and less chance of any understanding or compromise in the future.
This is escalating. We have a police problem, police with guns problem, and a gun problem. Here’s a idea, no guns. Here’s an even more interesting idea, police with no guns.
Before you say it is not possible I say we can do anything we want.
That’s one model.
But it’s also completely possible/plausible that maintaining electricity and running water in rural areas is less cost-effective than doing so in urban areas (since there are more customers and more economic activity in urban areas). In which case, the pattern might be exactly the opposite: the electrical grid breaks down into several separate grids focused on economically important urban centers and running water is only maintained in those areas where electricity is available for pumping water.
This also means that industrial production will be essentially constrained to urban areas (especially since transport will be more difficult). So farming implements will now have to be purchased by rural economies from city economies, but rural economies will no longer have access to their own industrial centers (it will no longer make sense to make and maintain factories in the boondocks without electricity and transport provided by utilities or the government).
I’m not saying that’s what will happen, only that it doesn’t seem to be appreciably less plausible than the scenario where everything goes to hell all at once and city people predate rural people.
The thought of black people fighting back for once sure does make a lot of white people think about running for the hills…
That just means there are four people that don’t give a shit about BLM sniping the wrong people - but of course this act of terrorism has some sort of nobility around it. The heinous, racist murders by police are just the latest excuse and about as important as last month’s Orlando shooting being in the name of ISIS. All this has done is empowered wrongheaded politicians and cops, and chase away people willing to protest the issue.
Who said that?
Not me. I’m just pointing out how some folks would rather draw out doomsday scenarios in response to these events instead of talking about, you know, these events.
Who said anything about doomsday scenarios? I condemned the attacks and said they shouldn’t be associated with BLM.
If our police and military no longer go armed, I would be happy to give up my guns.
I suppose your guess is as good as mine. If I had to place a wager, I would guess an entirely different scenario, which nobody expects.
Mock the pea shooters all you like, look at the difficulty and America and Russia had going to ground against insurgents in the middle east/Afghanistan. An armed populace can out harass the most well equipped armies in the world and make it not worth their time and effort to be there.
Is any one man going to stop an army? No. But clearly even one man (Osama Bin Laden) can bedevil even an opponent with a VAST amount of resources.
Scenarios are pretty depressing, we have enough depressing reality to deal with.
Also - I’m far more for the egalitarian distribution of access to tools than about the romance of being le resistance. Firearms are simple tools and restricting them to only special citizens is poppycock. I do believe the right to be armed helps level the playing field between the strong and the weak.
Somewhat agreed, given legislative timetables and such…but it clearly speaks to how screwed up their priorities are. A shocking amount of gun violence and police brutality against marginalized members of American society, and these jackholes want to sue the Feds about which bathroom people have to use.
“What’s that you say? The house is on fire? I see. Well, once I finish polishing these doorknobs, and then once I find and replace the eighty feet of fallopian tube in the cellar, and then I’ve got to check the bathroom for ter’rists…but ya, I’ll get to that fire in just a moment.”
If I see one more news story or tweet about thoughts and prayers from a politician I’m going to vomit. Where were your very public thoughts and prayers for the victims and families when it was the police doing the killing.
Or better yet, fuck thoughts and prayers, in favor of actually doing something about the police.
(And of course a this-is-horrible-don’t-condone-collective-punishment-revenge-murders disclaimer etc. )
Fair enough… your comment seemed to indicate you thought that just having the infrastructure made it happen. It didn’t and it still hasn’t. My apologies if I misconstrued your meaning.
I don’t want to completely ignore him, and I agree it seems as if the Dallas police have made serious progress. But that doesn’t mean things still aren’t problematic. We really need to drill down into what actually happens in the community itself to see how things are actually going.
how about an end to systemic racism?
White American collectively shit their pants when the Panthers emerged from Oakland, spouting marxism doctrine and toting guns… No matter what they ACTUALLY did that was positive for the local communities…
Why, no sir - thank you for your sarcasm. Always useful.
It’s a fucking awful, goddamn awful situation. What are you doing to change it? Personally - you - what are you doing, right now?
No need to apologize, I totally get it.
Happy Mutant content - reports are that the shooter who was killed was hiding out and they sent in a bomb squad robot with explosive on it to kill him.
So we may have seen the first local law enforcement remote controlled killing. Drones aren’t just for bad guys in other countries. Hopefully we are super judicious with their use in our own communities as well.
