Something to bear in mind, and which provides a little hope: Russia’s economy is notably smaller than either Canada or South Korea, and only a little bigger than Australia.
The kicker is the nukes. Otherwise, Russia can just GTFO.
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Yes, indeed. And for the first time I feel that both countries are now a little more inclined to use 'em. 
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Believe me 5% of armed wackos is all it takes to start a bloodbath. Yugoslavia had maybe 1% to 2% crazies back in 1989 and things sure escalated quickly from there. So be very very affraid.
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Half the nation voted for him. That half won’t be happy if he suddenly doesn’t become president because the EC intervened.
They might not throw it to congress. They can just straight up decide that Hilary Clinton wins, if they want (and this would arguably be what they should do in this instance, if her opponent is not a valid choice for them). It only goes to Congress if no one gets a majority.
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So, If He knew all the time that russian spies were involved in the election, what would happen?
You, American people, would have a new election?
The foreign policy danger of the Trump administration isn’t USA vs Russia.
It’s USA + Russia vs Everyone Else. Probably starting in Syria and Iran.
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About 20% did (and the vast majority of those were people who would vote for anyone with (R) after their name. I wonder how many people were “Trump and only Trump” voters? Can’t imagine there were that many.
They can just straight up decide that Hilary Clinton wins, if they want (and this would arguably be what they should do in this instance, if her opponent is not a valid choice for them). It only goes to Congress if no one gets a majority.
I’m totally down with giving Obama another 4 years if everyone else is…
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Around 58% of eligible voters turned out, he got ~46% of the popular vote, so that’s more like ~26.7% of the nation that voted for him. ~28% of the nation voted for Clinton.
He wouldn’t be president if it weren’t for the EC, and the EC is who casts their votes. The EC exists to prevent exactly the situation we’re in now. While plenty of Trump supporters would be livid if Trump wasn’t elected, it’s hard to say what the outcome would be, and hard to say that outcome’s worse than a Trump presidency which seems as much an existential threat to the republic as a civil war.
Still, it’s really improbable that the EC will do anything but rubber-stamp Trump. If they didn’t and the Orange Hordes rose up, my sense is that the Orange Hordes would sit back down pretty quickly once they started to see the insurrection around them put down.
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Nope.
Less than 1/2 of people who voted voted for him (45.9%; 62.9M out of ~137.1M votes cast)
About 1/4 of eligible voters voted for him (27.2%; 62.9M out of 231.6M eligible voters)
A bit less than 1/5 of “the nation” voted for him. (19.6%; 62.9M out of ~320M popn)
Edit: Although, to be fair, if the electoral college does give it to Clinton, the equivalent figures would be:
Less than 1/2 of people who voted voted for her (48.1%; 65.7M out of ~137.1M votes cast)
A bit more than 1/4 of eligible voters voted for her (28.4%; 65.7M out of 231.6M eligible voters)
About 1/5 of “the nation” voted for her. (20.5%; 65.7M out of ~320M popn)
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He drew about 60 million votes in a nation of 325 million.
60/325 = 0.18
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Or, more likely:
Russia vs anybody (Ukraine? Baltic States?) while Trump’s USA sits idly by.
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In theory, proof of such allegations could provide enough justification for members of the electoral college to switch their votes to Hillary on January 6. Realistically this is almost certainly not going to happen. A slightly more realistic scenario is that Congress impeaches Trump shortly after he takes office, leaving Pence as President.
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Hahaha, fair points, well-taken.
My point about those people not being happy about invalidating his presidency remains. And they’d likely be joined by a group of people who (not incorrectly) believe the entire concept of an Electoral College is some undemocratic BS.
Civil war might be an exaggeration (though maybe not much of one given how extreme and well-armed some of Trump’s supporters are), but if the EC rejects Trump’s presidency, things will get worse before they get better, however “right” that decision.
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Is it considered treason or a similar crime?
They’d be really mad. Since that base includes gun nuts propagandized to that the 2nd Amendment’s intent was for them to one day grab their rifles and be Constitutional Heroes there probably would be some lunatics shooting at things. Trump would undoubtedly encourage this since he’s an amoral psychopath. And that’s the rub. The fact that Trump had already encouraged “the Second Amendment People” to take up arms if he lost, and obliquely stated he wouldn’t accept a loss is exactly why the EC should reject him both as a matter of principle and to protect the republic from a threat that would probably be more serious than Trump’s Gilded Horde.
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Hard to say. Treason would be a stretch unless he made some secret bargain with the Russians or something. A lot of the things Trump does are not expressly illegal simply because the people who wrote our laws never imagined anyone doing them before. Congress can still impeach a President even if they haven’t been convicted of a crime however.
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I know this is the kind of frightened fantasy that the Republicans do so well (the gays are coming, the immigrants are coming, the gun-grabbers are coming, the Muslims are coming, the Commies are coming!), but I have serious concerns about what would happen if the EC did prevent Trump from taking office. I think there would be plenty of angry armed people out there ready and willing to shoot shit up.
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Sure, but to state the obvious: the US presidential “election” in November isn’t a direct election. It’s a popularity contest. The actual election takes place on 19 Dec.
I understand the US armed forces are quite well equipped.
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Yes, but worst case scenario.
::mumbles something about Napoleon, Hitler, and getting involved in a land war in Asia::
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