Russian actress singing for Russian troops dies on stage in blast

Originally published at: Russian actress killed on stage


Russia continues to eat its own talent like few other countries in history.


So, if you go anyway when you are aware of the danger, does that constitute actual Russian Roulette? :thinking:


Where do we draw the line in ‘acceptable killings’?

The soldiers?
The trucker unloading at the supply depot?
The cook at the troop’s kitchen?
The custodian at the arms plant?
The singer at the troop rally?
The bartender at the cafe where the troops drink?
The family of the foot soldier?
The neighbor of the family of the foot soldier?

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If the Putin regime is calling a Russian death in the Ukraine conflict “unacceptable” (no-one here is making that distinction), it’s based on the presumably loyal individual’s public prominence, wealth, influence, and/or connections to the autocrat. If one is a Russian without any of those things (most of those on your list but not this singer) then one’s death in Russia’s unprovoked war of expansion is “acceptable”, if not outright celebrated, by the Kremlin.


Basically anyone in a uniform or at a military facility is fair game. Clearly marked hospitals excepted.


Pretty bold of her to enter Ukraine without a visa or a work permit.

@fiatrn Under the Geneva conventions, civilians only get protection if they are from a different country than the military they are with. She was Russian working for the Russians, so no protection. There are exemptions for sick, wounded, medical, religious, and war correspondents.

This is all nice, but this assumes Russia is respecting the Geneva conventions (pretty grisly content warning).


The general rule is military personnel must wear a uniform and their facilities, even if its just a trench, must be segregated from civilians.

With the exception of military hospital staff, all people on a base or in a troop concentration are fair game.


… is there any evidence the Ukrainian artillerymen targeted the stage rather than the audience?

If the theater was off limits because there was a civilian in it, wouldn’t that mean the soldiers were using her as a “human shield” :confused:



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I actually meant my question as a general measure of what human lives we do and do not value during a “war.”

I appreciate the nuanced answers though,especially regarding the actual rules of war.

Seeing anyone in Russia complain about anyone killed by the defenders of a country Russia invaded…


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