Also, the idea that big cities are inherently more dangerous than rural areas isn’t even true.
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Literally my next sentence!
The source I found for 2017 had Baltimore as 2nd, with New Orleans and Newark ahead of Chicago.
I think a lot depends on what metric you’re looking at and how you define a city. Murders only, or all violent crime? Only the top 25 cities by population, or top 100, or any city over 500k? Then things stack up differently.
If you only look at murder rate, coastal cities have definitely been in the mix recently. Baltimore, New Orleans, and Miami have had the highest rate at one point or another in the past couple of decades.
National average is not really very informative. Big cities have unique problems. New Hampshire and North Dakota have (or had?) below 1.0 per 100,000 homicides. Stuff gets stolen like crazy in New Hampshire though, better than being murdered I guess. Crazy amount of suicides in North Dakota.
Despite cherry picking statistics, it’s pretty easy to argue that the US is not a safe place. Liechtenstein is where you really want to be. Murder rate is lower in China than Germany by quite a bit too.
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Calling Phoenix a “border town” is pretty ridiculous.
I was going by violent crime and not murder on its own, but even by murder rate you are still talking every other slot on the list being in the Midwest. And Miami still gets shit but hasn’t had a unusually high murder rate since the 90s, and had a brief extreme in the 80s. The closest to acknowledging where violent crime is concentrated is when Republicans lie and say that Chicago is the murder capital of the US because of people of color and gun control.
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In the Houston neighborhood I live in, the closest convenience store was robbed at gunpoint & one of the clerks murdered. The perps were 2 Honduran teenagers, while the victim was a Pakistani (the store is owned & run by Pakistanis.)
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How is this anecdote significant? The fact remains: native-born American citizens are significantly more likely to commit crimes (besides illegal immigration itself, of course) than immigrants, whether legal or illegal. Period.
This is not meant to and does not imply, however, that immigrants never commit crimes, and no one is saying anything of the sort. But conservative rhetoric, mostly via Dolt 45, insists they’re mostly/all “bad people”, “rapists”, “Murderers”, “drug dealers”, and the like. It’s pure, unadulterated, blatant racism; I’m completely sick of it and won’t tolerate it from anyone.
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No, I’ve never done crime research ever (unless you count casing a joint 
). My issue is that the research includes cities like Louisville or Oklahoma City that are “large”, despite the fact that they anchor smaller metro areas compared to places not included, like Atlanta or Miami (which anchor massive metro areas, in the the top 10). I understand the practical concerns, but the impracticality doesn’t assuage my desire for statistics that take into account whole urban areas, and not merely the centers of urban areas
It’s unclear to me how your comment relates to my comment. Perhaps you thought my comment was meant to be an argument against the conclusion of the research? That was not what I intended.
I was just trying to point out (perhaps with too much brevity) that, in the US, there are simple legal entities called “cities”, but there are also complex economic entities called “metropolitan areas” or “urban areas”, and that the research was favoring the simple entities over the complex ones. I, personally, would like to see the statistics for the complex entities, not because I doubt the conclusion of the research, but because I’m curious. Thanks for your comment, though!
Of the 30 largest metropolitan statistical areas in the US, 12 have their principal cities ignored by the Brennan Center’s research (Miami, Atlanta, Riverside, Detroit, Minneapolis-St.Paul, Tampa, St. Louis, Orlando, Pittsburgh, Sacramento, Cincinnati, Kansas City). So, while it’s technically correct that the Brennan Center’s report is about America’s 30 largest cities, the research is in fact ignoring a large number of the country’s actual major cities (sorry, Louisville: y’aint major).
And so, all I was trying to say is this: because the activity of a person’s life tends to occur throughout the economic region in which they reside (not just within the city limits of the center of that region), I think it would be very insightful to learn about the statistics for the whole region—especially for the major regions of the US.
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In that case, my apologies then! I definitely misunderstood your intent ^^’.
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both sides of my family are immigrants and every time I hear some racist bastard talk about immigrants I want to kick there ass from here to the Moon
GRRRRRR
news flash to those morons: It’s MY family that helped make America Great.
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