School: Please don't throw your children over the gate when they are tardy

Only on the inside.

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I understand that the culture (and schooling) is different :slight_smile: i don’t have a problem with schools being strict about letting people in the building but in the case of the gate it seems that closing it is causing something more troublesome and unsafe.

But perhaps parents should consider building a catapult for kids? :thinking:

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as with so many of our rules — we close the gate because we always have closed the gate

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That forgets that there is are those out there with a mindset that if they’re in charge of making rules, then they’d better damn well make some, whether or not there’s a need. Or that sometimes rules made sense once upon a time (only Management has access to certain documents, because there’s only X number copies) but no longer make sense (since document can be reproduced infinitely and never needs to be physical why are only Management allowed access when everyone can make use of the information?).

Of course, by and large a lot of Government regulations exist because something bad happened and they want to prevent it. I foresee a number of laws being put in place regarding the US President, because of Trump’s habit of breaking various conventions surrounding Presidents and what they do, which were never actually rules, just something everybody did.

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This is probably the equivalent of a K-8 problem. Why a parent can only drop off their child at three designated times is bizarre.

I do know that U.S. high schools go through accreditation every 3-6 years and this involves keeping the schools sufficiently locked down because of the possibility of school shootings. My guess is that K-8 schools do it for liability. However, parents can easily drop off their kids at any time in CA.

ETA: Since this is in France and pupil school shootings really isn’t an issue there, I wonder if they are concerned with possible terrorism?

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What if they don’t feel tardy?

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I think we can agree that the trebuchet is the superior s̶i̶e̶g̶e̶ ̶w̶e̶a̶p̶o̶n̶ school entry device

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The Indians solved the problem years ago…

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I’m all for having a range of siege… erm… entry devices. Can’t stop them all :sunglasses:

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Schools around here lock the doors during the school day too, but they also have a doorbell with an intercom connected to the front office so if you need to access the school during the day there is an option. I get that this school was probably built before intercoms were invented, but it seems like something that could be retrofitted.

I feel ya. I just think that a 1.8 meter gate is much more effective at keeping out schoolkids than a school shooter or terrorist attacker. If I can vault it, it’s not going to be much of a real deterrent.

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Both are obsolete:

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I just took a peek at the suburban schools I attended in california on google streetview, and their campuses are still wide open as they were in the 90s. Same with the middle school my wife taught at just last year. No six foot fences or locked gates. While schools are required to be capable of “locking down”, that just means locking classroom doors in an emergency situation. Not fencing the whole campus in like a prison 7 days a week.

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But there’s no explanation as to why this particular regulation exists.

Also, schools are notorious for being particularly filled with pointless, rigid, counter-productive regulations put in place primarily for the convenience of the people who work at schools.

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Don’t like parkour? Well this is how you get parkour.

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But then at least you’d be rid of your kids for good, unless they learned to teleport through the walls.

I think you’d want the Millenarian Math for that.

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Exactly. It’s mostly window dressing. All in the name of a higher WASC score, which translates to higher property values. :roll_eyes:

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good point. this is why there are so many french parkour experts: they start 'em young.

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