Scientists declare octopi life from another world


#121

You can fix the link by hand when you post it. The ASCII code for ) is %29

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=o%29ktw/pous

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=o)ktw/pous


#122

Possibly more relevant to the octopus are aliens theme:


#123

Totally unlike us, then.


#124

I knew it!


#125

Karma, eh?..

“Then I saw a great white throne and the octopus who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his tentacles, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and browsers were opened. A webpage was opened, which was Reddit. The dead were judged according to their karma. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their karma. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose username was not found on Reddit was thrown into the lake of fire.”


#126

Well, you’ve got to feel a little sorry for the guy. You go to get your PhD with one of the world’s greatest astrophysicists, the guy who came up with the (sound) idea that chemical elements are created in stars. That week the guy is obsessed with a fun-but-ridiculous theory about life in the universe, so that’s what you end up doing. It would be like a chemistry grad student becoming Linus Pauling’s student just when he decided to devote the rest of his life to the benefits of vitamin C.


#127

You can have my greek-style plural when you pry it out of my moderately reluctant fingers.


#128

They did it to piss of Joey.


#129

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#130

Oh wait, never mind.


#131

What about Octopie; is it tasty?


#132

Ask an Italian, apparently:


#133

Ed Yong’s piece for the Atlantic is all gosh-wow and the argument is all “surely not a coincidence!”
P.Z. Myers is much more “Yeah, whatever, no big deal”.

You read of cephalopods editing their RNA, and think “Yay! They are genetic hackers, modifying their own source-code!” But it’s not obvious to me how this benefits them. Instead of DNA -> mRNA -> protein, the ADAR enzymes just mean that evolution in squiddlies works through one more layer of indirection: DNA -> mRNA -> modified mRNA -> protein. The end result is the same… a mutation in the DNA ultimately results in a change in protein expression.


#134

Might have something to do with plants not being able to run away from local difficulties. Gotta store up survival strategies, or so I’ve been told.


#135

Intelligent Design is a far better answer. Especially since there NO sign of life elsewhere at this point. much less octopi life. And BTW it’s being proven that NONE of the evolution proposed for life has enough time. Not to mention that’s there’s still NO CLUE as to how life started in the 1st place… Outside of Special Creation. But hey that ol’ somedaymaybe science will work it all out i guess. But right NOW the science says there’s NOT enough time for evolution for even 3 small DNA changes to stick.


#136

There’s a much more obvious explanation, but at the risk of upsetting those who have turned a failed 19th century idea into a full-blown religion, I’ll keep it to myself.

We all know what it is, though, and the more we learn, the stronger the evidence for it grows. :slight_smile:


#137

If intelligent design is the answer, it must have been a very, very silly question.


#138

This article makes a great argument as to why we shouldn’t put much stock in scientists.


#139

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No.


#141

EBCDIC is where it’s at.