I live in Vancouver BC, where housing prices are insanely high. A lot of people in all age groups can’t afford to buy here, or even rent.
The flip side is that as of today, birth control prescriptions are free for every BC resident.
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The number one cause of personal bankruptcies in the US is health care expenses. Some people think real estate is expensive in California. The flip side is that every California resident receives health care, with catastrophic care expenses covered. Vs Idaho, where the legislature is pushing to reverse ACA Medicaid expansion - a.k.a. Free federal healthcare dollars. Oh, and they’ve already voted to make mRNA vaccines (which are our best shot at curing a dozen or so types of cancer) illegal.
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Ironically people are fleeing California because housing prices are unaffordable (which also causes secondary issues like high homelessness) - because so many people moved here from other states. (I mean, seriously - the entirety of California history has consisted of insane numbers of people moving here from other states, causing all sorts of problems.) But hey, it won’t be a problem for Idaho for much longer - nothing like making the state unlivable to make housing really, really cheap.
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The people who move from California to Idaho tend to do so do so for some combination of three reasons: lower housing costs; lower taxes; and lower chances of running into people who aren’t white.
Since outright racism is embarrassing to admit, the last is usually bearded by claims of “quality of life issues, like low crime, good schools, and not having large homeless populations”. It’s pretty easy to see through that BS, though.
Anecdotally speaking, I know some older people who considered moving to Boise mainly for the lower housing costs. All of them noped out after visiting and stayed in California, all citing the state’s right-wing politics and the dearth of cultural activity that’s a side effect of a lack of diversity.
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I’ve spent a fair bit of time in both states as it happens, and everything you’ve said is incorrect.
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You can also move out of Vancouver and get all the benefits of BC without the high cost of living. 
It’s beautiful out here, just saying.
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It’s already really bad here in Texas. I mean really bad like middle class white women in the city can’t find an ob for a wanted pregnancy and are 9wks in kinda bad. And this is in the city.
The liberal city. Rural hospitals just don’t really exist. Rich communities in rural Texas pay ridiculous hidden taxes that shock me actually to have private care flight options in general already because it was never really about saving money I guess?
People are complaining doctors they have seen before arent even answering if you are over 25 and have any other medical problem while pregnant people are asking each other for help if they know anyone… For a planned pregnancy not an abortion. It’s insane.
It won’t make the news and the retirees that flocked here won’t care.
I don’t know what the death toll will be but combined with all the other issues here that are erroneously viewed through the lens of a culture war the writing is on the wall: in a few more years there will be fewer healthy functional people in the state of Texas. Lack of medical care during pregnancies will cause more pregnancies to become unhealthy.
I wish people valued the right to reproduce safely and in comfort as much as they do other rights.
I really cannot imagine a more fundamental or primal right or one more essential to human survival.
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It’s how a profit driven medical care system reacts to declining population numbers in rural areas. Heck one of the closest hospitals near me closed down their maternity ward and that happened in a blue state like New York so christofacists were really not a factor into that decision.
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Oopsies! Idaho has a much higher effective tax rate than California.
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Nah, city guy here. I like the ability to walk everywhere. Lost Lagoon is 20 minutes away on foot.
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That is on the list of things which will probably happen.
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I live in a small town and walk everywhere too! Plus no crime, pollution, or noise. To each their own.
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NONSENSE 
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Also false news. Oregon produces more potatoes than Idaho…
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I represent that remark. Through factors beyond my control, I ended up having to move from Chicago (30 years of it on the south side) to rural Indiana.
Let me tell you what the reality is: it’s more dangerous here. It’s more expensive here. The schools range from barely acceptable to terrible. The drug problem is off the charts. There’s no such thing as neighborliness, because you don’t have neighbors in the same way. Everyone keeps to themselves, and if you don’t go to their church, you might as well not exist. And don’t get me started on the sexism and racism.
It is also true that I can live in a much nicer home that cost less to buy than a similar sized home in Chicago. But the running costs are eating me alive. There’s always something to fix or replace, thanks to the fact that instead of having robust municipal systems to take care of things like utilities, it all has to be done by each individual family for themselves. Having multiple cars in a family is a requirement, with all the added costs and maintenance thereto.
Have you been reading the articles about how people are starting to realize this and are moving back to cities? I am not yet able to do that, but I will as soon as I can. This is not the America I want to live in.
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Also, it turns out, if you look at the average moving rates per state, based on population, the numbers moving out of California aren’t actually as high as they should be, meaning people are staying more than would be expected, statistically. I think a couple of those charts were posted here in some other thread a few months back.
Yes, people move all the time due to work or education or retirement or family needs. But they’re not leaving California in ‘droves’. The life is too good there; albeit expensive.
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That’s quite a good reality check on this trend. Something may look good from the numbers but the reality can be very different when you have to live in it. It’s really nice to have livable cities with safety, clean streets and good public transit. It can be done!
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Close enough that I feel I owe you some sort of frosty beverage!
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… turns out people will put up with a lot of crap in order to be able to have picnics in December 
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Safety, clean streets, and good public transit become much harder to achieve when rugged individualism, religious fundamentalism, bigotry, and misogyny represent the dominant “community values” of a state or town. You know, like in Idaho.
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