Honestly not sure it even matters. Everyone who has been identified as a woman, has had to conform to visual expectations to survive, and who has been poor knows that you can look damned good on a shoestring. The only ones to be touched by this bullshit are people who just need to be told their whole worldview is shit in the first place.
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How? how are you supposed to control HOW OTHERS SEE US AND JUDGE US? How are we supposed to stop our bosses from deciding not to promote us because we’re too shrill or we’re not dressed in the right way or our hair is wrong? THIS IS NOT OF OUR MAKING. None of this is.
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But it’s OUR fault? WTF?
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That’s what we’re fucking DOING! Judging a woman on the clothes she wears IS A MISOGYNISTIC ATTACK.
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I never attacked Palin on how she looked, dressed, or any of that. Her problem was her policies and her absolute unfitness for public office. Period. I didn’t care about how she dressed or wore her hair. It’s entirely immaterial to her unfitness for office.
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Oh God, this is exactly what they did with the last actual left-winger to lead the Labour party.
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Being able to wear the comfortable “personal uniform” to work is a sign of privilege for anyone making an upper-middle-class living or more; more so in the tech industry, where Jobs pioneered it with his black turtleneck. You don’t see Bezos or Zuckerberg wearing a damned suit to work every day – they save them for meetings with lawyers and bankers and politicians at their workplaces.
Here’s how easy it is for a man, especially an older one who works with the tech industry. I went in for a client visit last week and got complimented by the young female assistant on an item of clothing I was wearing: a 5-year-old black fleece pullover (one of several near-identical ones I have) from the fashion house of Vieille Marine (AKA Old Navy). I said “thanks”, but for a second there I was bemused by the whole situation.
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The thing that really strikes me there is that Hannity doesn’t even make an attempt to present any of that stuff in negative light. I mean, there can be legitimate disagreements about a number of those things, but this just comes off as Hannity copy-pasting the whole thing right from AOC’s website and assuming his audience will hiss and boo at it automatically. But since when is “Support seniors” supposed to be a controversial position?
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My history teacher used to say that the key difference between Neville Chamberlain and Winston Churchill was that Churchill had read Mein Kampf and Chamberlain hadn’t.
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Nobody can ever accuse them of being original, that’s for sure.
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Maybe an effort to seem Fair and Balanced?
Nah. Sheer laziness really does seem the more likely explanation.
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Oh, I agree. I think you misread what I was referring to. (More likely, I probably thought wrongly you would know)
A lot of conservative dudes I knew really liked her because they thought she was hot. She did not have a whole lot more that they said they appreciated. Hence why I said icky.
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Fair enough… thanks for clarifying! I think this thread is just making me angry!
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Just did a skim here, but I didn’t offhand see a comment that it’s all nonsense from the word go.
FDR was filthy rich.
The wealth of the speaker does not invalidate their message.
It all reminds me of the “hypocrisy” dumped on OWS for putting their donated money in a bank. What were they supposed to use? Beaver pelts in a guarded shack? Or upon environmental campaigners for using aircraft - or even heated homes. You can’t build the next world with the tools of the next world, because it isn’t here yet. You have to use the tools of the existing world to muster the resources to change it.
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Unless it’s a flag pin, not really. I’m know Obama got some flak about wearing a turban that time.
It really isn’t a reasonable question, ever. It represents gross misunderstanding of poverty and trades in some really nasty stereotypes. To get it quickly out of the way, clothing questions are never asked of men in this way, and she hasn’t claimed poverty. She’s said that she isn’t able to afford rent in two of the most expensive cities in the country before she starts to draw a salary.
Beyond that, it wouldn’t be a reasonable question even if she claimed poverty. Being broke doesn’t come with automatic sack cloth. Most people in this country who are at or near the poverty line have at least one reasonably nice outfit. It might be church clothes if that is their thing, or maybe just the outfit they wear for funerals and job interviews. Owning at least one and usually a couple of nice outfits is actually a sound financial investment for a person with limited means. It allows you to move freely in spaces that will often try to shut you out. Wearing that outfit to the first day of a new job would be perfectly understood behavior in most low income communities. We carry this cultural image of poverty that just doesn’t reflect the reality.
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And if they’re not when they first get into office, they pretty much all are by the time they retire.
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Would you, in today’s world, compliment her in return on her apparel?
The one where women are demanding to be treated as equals in our professional capacity, that one?
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Do I know the how to fix the world? No. But step 1 in this instance would be to stop supporting it. I don’t support women in politics using how they dress to send a message. Do you?
If yes, then you have no room to complain when people assume there is a meaning in how women dress.
If no, then why are you pissed at me? Be pissed at those who are doing it.
I will stick with my assertion that it’s stupid for women politicians to actively drag fashion into politics. It’s counterproductive to women and politics.
I am not talking about the workplace and promotions. That’s an even bigger problem. I’m talking about politics and politics only. It pisses me off that some women politicians are dragging the problems you are talking about into politics. I don’t understand you defending it.
