Lemme guess, you’re white, male and under 30? Your family paid for all your schooling but you’re self-made?
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Hate to burst your naive little bubble, but businesses kill people all over the world and slavery still exists all over the world, even in the U.S. (Although fortunately at a much lower rate than 160 years ago).
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Psssh; we can’t let a little thing like verifiable facts get in the way of a severely skewed & self-absorbed world view.
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Let’s please keep this thread on-topic. Discussion of how this is a non-issue because there are worse atrocities being committed is beyond the scope. Let’s keep the discussion specific to the issue at hand. Thanks.
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There are currently more people enslaved than in any other time in history. slavery still exists and it is real and it can happen here.
You really are entirely ignorant of the reality of this world, aren’t you? Ideals are nice, but when they ignore reality they are entirely useless in creating a better world.
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I believe you meant to post that to the Edible Anuses thread.
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And you say you are worried about there being a gun to the head of the business owner, but the point is there isn’t one. There is no gun to the head of the pregnant employee or to the head of the business owner. The employee has as much right to walk away from the job as the business owner has to fold up shop. The employee has as little right to continue working without the business owner’s permission as the business owner does to continue running the business without complying with the law. And if the employee did continue working despite the owner saying they couldn’t then, yes, the proverbial “point of a gun” would become involved when the police were called to escort them off the premises.
If you want to change the subject to what is a good idea or a practical solution then I think there are lots of us who will happily discuss that. As long as you’ve conceded that the “point of a gun” argument is irrelevant because it applies equally to the business owner and the pregnant employee - both are free to leave the arrangement, both have the potential to run afoul of the law.
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makes great bubbles though!
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Shawn, you mention that you believe in the way things should be. Several times in your rhetoric you reinforce this notion, it should go such a way, based on such principles etc.
That sounds to me as if you believe that a specific way of doing things should be codified. “Should” implies a necessity. And seeing as you have clearly stated that your are philosophically and morally averse to the idea of enforcing the codification of behaviour because that practice, law-making, denotes violence, I was wondering if you had noticed this compartmentalisation of concepts? And if you had any explanation or description of synergy between the concepts that heals the paradox?
I just can’t parse the rest of what your’e saying without resolving this quandary. It seems like you both do and do not believe in the codification of acceptable behaviour within specific scenarios.
I’m also slightly confused as to whether or not you are treating the notion of contracts as being diametrically opposed to and non-occurring within the practice of ‘at will’ employment. Do you believe this to be the case? Or is this perhaps another description of the way you believe things should be? Without constituting the codification of enforceable laws.
You see my confusion.
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