I do see that, and I agree he likely didn’t, at least consciously, mean it in the sense of “getting some action” though I do have to wonder if the way it’s phrased isn’t indicative of the same tendency to ignore the impact on the victim in favor of the hardship the action has caused his son which his statement is just rife with. Still, I don’t know anything about the father, and this statement alone, written in a time of obvious personal grief, isn’t adequate to draw any real conclusions.
You know, that’s one of the more damning things here in my view. If I even bump into someone and knock over their coffee, I am so apologetic and willing to do practically anything to make amends; I cannot even imagine this scenario.
Even if…and it is nearly an impossible if…but even if her and he had been flirting and talking and one thing led to another and somehow it was a misunderstanding (OFC it wasn’t this, but if if if here)…You’d have to be so contrite and remorseful about this having happened to even some what have a chance of understanding and empathy to your side.
But in this situation the reality is there wasn’t any kind of mis understanding and he is clearly a leacherous jackwagon. So the behavior by him, and his father is not surprising. They are so self absorbed and just don’t seem to care about how she was effected. Which psychologically makes a ton of sense and all, but it still sickening and tragic.
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That was the set-up for a second even greater episode, where saintly character, with no idea that he was once a serial killer, is tracked down by his victims.
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Why not both?
He’s a deplorable 1%er who loves his child in the manner available to him, which includes disregarding the consequences of his son’s actions and a demand that his son be treated with the same privilege he has come to expect.
I’m a father too, and if my son did something so horrible I would want him rehabilitated such that he understood the consequence of his actions, learned true remorse beyond the shadow of a doubt, and did not experience privileged treatment in these as it would undermine the intent and outcome.
The father disregarding the circumstances his son is in is the moral equivalent of denying his child necessary surgery because it will hurt.
This puts aside the fact of the US’s broken ass punitive penal system, and Canada’s (where I live) declining system. But those are other questions that the father does not raise, and fuck him if he did unless he addresses the system for all with his son as only his personal context and motivation.
He thinks his son doing time for rape will ruin his son’s life? It’s quite the opposite, and it’s his privilege that distorts his views such.
I’m a dad, like many others, and while it would hurt very much I’d want my boys to pay the piper, unless it’s the death penalty. And I’d love and support them through it all including working to see to their safety in a broken penal system.
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While I would agree with you as a father also. The reality is we shouldn’t force our parenting ideals and standards on someone else. It’s their kid. and while we can find common ground around social norms (and this is certainly there…teach your son the god damn meaning of consent!) it is still up to the parent to decide how to love their child. Tough love, stern love, gracious love, etc etc.
Again, and I cannot stress this enough…I have only commented on the confines of THIS article and the explicit assumption that Rob/BB is emphasizing around the connotation of “action”. we do not know how he means it. And numerous posters here have assumed he means “action” as a sexual gratification and that jail time isn’t needed for what little/minor sex his son got. I highly doubt that is what the dad meant. The dad is still a freaking idiot for opening his mouth. But two wrongs don’t make a right…EVER. making assumptions about his meaning is the same stupidity that people like his son made “well, she said she wanted to have a good time tonight…that’s what I thought she meant.”
No. don’t assume. Stop assuming what others mean.
I don’t address the words and so don’t assume their meaning.
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Yes, you appear overly fixated on that specific one over the horror of any possible interpretation.
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But that’s exactly what you’re doing here.
Well, other people’s affluenza is a bitch to those of us not lucky enough to have affluenza.
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Say we take the dad’s side and remove the word “rape.”
Okay. Your son fucked a woman who was passed out behind a dumpster.
Yeah, that sounds so much better.
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You would think he would have had someone read it over and point out problems. Then again maybe he did and had the problem of it only being read by like minded people.
I read it as meaning 20 minutes of his action when compared to the rest of his life. to which i thought “Holy fuck - did you not pay attention to what happened in those 20 min”
If he meant the other valid interpretation as “hey it was just 20 min of sex it is no big deal” I think there needs to be some investigation of the fathers past actions to see how many 20 min of action he has had with people agains their will if that is his attitude.
…or maybe those that proof read it had a good laugh at the ambiguity of the meaning. The complete disregard for the victim is horrendous. I wish I could say it was unbelievable but unfortunately it is not.
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I have a son. I also have a daughter. There is nothing “normal” about “adoring” a child who commits such an act. You can love your child unconditionally, but that does not mean you have to support or defend their behavior unconditionally. There is a difference.
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You can unconditionally love your child. You do not have to unconditionally defend their deplorable behavior. Quite the opposite. If you love your child, you see them as a person separate from yourself and you want them to grow and learn from their transgressions, which includes paying for them, and, if the transgression requires, be removed from society so they don’t hurt someone else’s child. Any healthy parent understands both sides of this coin.
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This is the role of justice as seen from a governmental point of view, and is pretty much the thinking from middle ages Europe on…
Keeping the peace is all that matters in the end. Not whose right or wrong. Step in, resolve the dispute, and tell both parties it is done, so they get back to the business of giving you half of everything they have
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I posted this in the thread about the mug shot and thought it should go here too… sorry for the cross post, but it’s relevant, I think:
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and you get 7 years for monkeying with the red light cameras. sigh.
some fucked up priorities we have here in the USA
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Ah, got it. I have no idea why the court thinks he won’t reoffend. It seems like that would be based on his statements and actions since the crime. I acknowledge that internet isn’t likely to be giving us the whole story, but nothing I’ve read rules out that the judge thinks he’s not likely to reoffend because he’s a young, clean-cut white male.
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I’m in shock over the comments at the bottom of this article on CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/07/opinions/stanford-rape-case-letter-robbins/index.html
Opener:
Looks to me like she had a crash on that guy…it’s also never a good
idea to drink yourself unconscious at a party when you were supposed to
watch over you sister…life is a very stern teacher…stern, but fair!
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You know as I got older I got much mellower in my urges to use violence as retribution.
However that comment makes wish to go remove the commenters ability to procreate with extreme prejudice even though I know it is the wrong response.
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Don’t. read. the. comments.
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