Star Wars Ep. IX: The Rise of Skywalker trailer

Maybe she just changes her name. After all, she doesn’t have a family. Why not adopt one?

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Sigh
After TLJ I really didn´t want to get hyped for another Star Wars film again. So much for that…
This looks solid, good even. And we get Lando AND Sheev back in a form or another.
I am still a fan of the theory that Rey is the granddaughter of old Palpatine. Think about it; Kylo is the offspring of the heros in the classic triology and the villian in the new one, Rey is the heroine in the new triology but the offspring of the villian in the old one. Its the Star Wars poetry Lucas loved so much.

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Everybody who believes this will really be the last numbered Star Wars movie, raise your hands

J. J. Abrams is in a hole.

J. J. Abrams has a shovel in his hand.

Is “out” the direction that J. J. Abrams is likely to be traveling?

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JEDI EVANGELIST: “Have you heard the good news?”

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I lost interest in the entire franchise after wasting good money on The Phantom Menace. God, that thing is a mess. The Pitch Meeting for it is hilarious tho.

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Man, everyone forgets about the other Skywalker. Why?

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Well, it’s going to be difficult for Leia to have much of a presence in the movie.

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But she’s a seasoned politician. She starts a new group, calls members the Skywalkers.

That could be huge.

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She never used the surname “Skywalker” though. She went by “Organa” (and possibly “Solo”? I don’t think they ever mentioned if she took her husband’s name).

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It’s a credit to the original cast that they were able to sell the dialogue as well as they did. Sadly, Lucas was able to coax some truly execrable performances out of some really competent actors for the prequels. The only other director I can think of with that particular gift is David Lynch coughDunecough

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True, but she’s still by blood a Skywalker.

This never seems justified if you’ve only seen the 2.5 hour release.

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Seems like it would be kind of disrespectful to refer to her as “Skywalker” considering she never self-identified that way though. She’s no more a “Skywalker” than she is an “Amidala.”

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Whatever halfway interesting things we could come up with by spit balling.

The answer is more than likely Kylo Ren. We have Palpatine in the trailer, who was obsessed with the Skywalkers. And Ren is a villain who modeled himself after Anakin Skywalker, even fruitlessly praying to the guy for guidance. Who also happens to be a Skywalker. And after TLJ the only one we’ve got. How that plays out is something else.

Unless its Ghost Luke. Or Lucasfilm let Abrams retconn everything, provided Abrams even wants to retconn anything.

Carrie Fisher sadly passed away before JJ Abrams was even put on episode IX and well before production started. They’ve put out there that they’ve got footage from the previous two movies they’ll be using to give the character a conclusion. And they’ve been absolutely clear that they won’t be using CG to keep the character going.

Its almost impossible Leia plays a significant role in the plot.

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??? It’s not disrespectful to notice who her relatives are—it’s a plot point in Empire and made explicit in RotJ.

She’s Leia Organa, but still a Skywalker.

December is a long way away, though, so I feel we may as well.

Which is kind of a relief, given the results used previously and the fact that they should be segueing away from the first trilogy’s primary cast anyway.

there’s an interesting theory that Palpatine used the force to create and destroy life from a distance… first he creates Anakin (that wasn’t just some random virgin birth) then he kills Padme (that wasn’t just her dying of a “broken heart”) to manipulate Anakin. This theory stems from the fable he told in the stadium of the guy who had power over life and death using the dark side. If you go with that, I don’t know what I’m saying… that Palpatine resurrected himself? That he “fathered” Rey the way he did Anakin (as in not in the normal way)? Actually the later sounds really dumb now that I’m saying it out loud. I much prefer the idea that there are “Muggle-born wizards” in the Star wars universe.

Yeah but if you were making a biopic about Nicolas Cage you wouldn’t call it “The Rise of Coppola.”

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Hm. I mean, Skywalker IS more Leia’s birth name, but it just seems strange for her to adopt the name this late in the game and to call that any sort of “rise”. Ben is the son of Leia, but his last name is definitely Solo, not Skywalker. The title either must refer to Luke in some way or Rey. But I really really want Rey to remain muggle-born. I know people hate bringing politics into their fantasy worlds, but the idea is just so much more egalitarian. And I’m using the harry potter analogy intentionally. considering that classism seems to be in england what racism is in america, I loved that a main theme of those books was to overturn the perceived value of family history and social class.

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Ian McDiarmid is a hack actor from TV, and the worst thing about everything he’s in. His hammy overacting ruined ROTJ and added a load of suck to the prequels.

  1. Wouldn’t I? That idea is sort of exciting, so I think your example sort of backfired there.

  2. Also: I had no idea he was related. I’m so flabbergasted I’m not even going to look that up.

  3. I might, if Cage started a foundation for his fam.

  4. I would also call it Coppola Uncaged in certain territories.

It also comes with a fair amount of baggage. But then again, her brother recently passed on*, so it is not inappropriate as an appellation.

(* But who might turn up from time to time as an advisor of sorts.)

Dude, it’s Star Wars. If you’re not acting that way, you’ve failed to help make it Star Wars.

(And, really this is a bit like complaining about Bruno Ganz “overacting” in Downfall.)

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That deserves a high five.

Yeah that was out there for a while, but it was entirely predicated on Lucas and drawn on a lot of EU stuff that’s not canon now. And of course that whole midichlorian weird in the prequels. The ghost nookie leads to Rey thing seems to just be those who can’t give up on that stuff trying to wedge the new flicks into the old theory.

I don’t see any real reason to believe anyone at the Disney owned Lucasfilm wants to follow up on midichlorians.

If Palpatine is actually involved and its not just Abrams’ noted marketing wizardry (read: driving trollies people to generate interest). Then I’m thinking its something along the lines of Ren asking Vader for guidance, Palpatine gagaga-ghost answers. We got Jedi force ghosts, we can have Sith force ghosts. Palpatine kinda wouldn’t shut up about it in the prequels. Plus Snoke was on about some real Sith or real threat thing right before he done got murdered.

Palpatine kinda has a hard on for them Skywalker boys, which is why I’m thinking Ren’s our Skywalker.

Seems to me by the time she found that out she really didn’t want to be associated with it.

And she doesn’t seem to have taken Han’s name, she’s not Leia Solo in the new stuff. So she’s fairly attached to Organa.

Counter point his hammy over acting is one of the few highlights of the prequels. Which were well and truly ruined by whatever the fuck Lucas was smoking.

Why was there a Johnny Rocket’s in space? And why does Obi-Wan seem so familiar with it?

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