Biden is mister “No fundamental changes” himself. How can’t it be at least partially his fault. It’s fully him being complicit.
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So you advocate “extrajudicial action” against Biden as well? Meaning violence? Jan6th style?
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No. But the facts are that Oil executives made a conscious choice spread lies and misinformation to the public about the negative impacts of climate change while lining the pockets of politicians to stave off needed changes to our national energy policies. Those are just the facts.
You don’t get any movement on climate change until you address the energy infrastructure globally. And as long as fossil fuel companies dominate that, not much is going to change.
Nothing “supernatural evil” about that… regular old, run of the mill corporate corruption. It still has a negative consequences for the entire planet and needs to be corrected.
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I’m pretty sure that that’s one of the least offensive thing that oil executives are called.
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There is a difference between actively pursuing miscarriage of justice and standing aside and letting it happen. Biden has a lot of issues to deal with, so maybe he doesn’t take the time to get involved in this particular case.These judges and lawyers have spent lots and lots of time on the case and know exactly what they are doing.
Kaplan seems openly corrupt, Preska more following the rules, no matter if they makes sense or not.
It seems it would not be a great burden for Biden to be briefed and refer it to the DOJ for action.
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Something something kill the rich
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Pedant here. I think you likely meant “object,” but the substitution better encompasses my feelings. 
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If movies have taught me one thing, this isn’t so much about getting back at Donziger, but about sending the message: You can’t touch us. If you try, we’ll bury you.
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Seriously, I may start using “abject lesson” now. It perfectly encapsulates the anguish you feel seeing this kind of thing.
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“You are trapped in a capitalist system that forces you to participate or die, yet you believe in socialism/communism. Curious”
Your take isn’t the revolutionary gotcha you think it is.
Maybe you should take a moment to consider the audience before it points out what a foolish thing you just said.
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When you have that much money you don’t need to rent the piper, you just buy the whole orchestra and write it off on tax as entertainment expenses.
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“Pour encourager les autres.”
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Well, that’s one way of trying to continue the fossil-fuel industry’s discredited narrative that individual action will save us all and that institutions have no culpability or responsibility for the damage they’ve caused (e.g. the situation in Ecuador).
Oil executives are not demons. They’re humans who’ve abdicated their morality and ethics in exchange for handsome compensation from a psychopathic fictional person that shields them from legal liability.
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Well the 60 second wait for the ad to run through is a little more annoyance tam than I’m willing to spend.
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https://ublockorigin.com blocks ads in Firefox, Edge and Chrome, both on desktop and mobile.
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Why the hell would you ever choose to use the internet with ads? They’re literally trying to brainwash you into losing all your money, all the time.
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They have also stalked and harassed leaders of the NGO’s including Amazon Watch.
This had to do with similar approaches the oil/gas companies always use. When Unocal was taken to court in the US for Doe v. Unocal on human rights violations carried out by their military business partners who had just ignored the results of Burma’s 1990 elections, they pressed the court to declare the case should be resolved in the regime’s court system in Burma. They lost after the judge found there was no way to achieve justice in that court system - and Unocal promptly settled in to keep it from a US judge or jury deciding.
Well, Texaco took this same legal approach in 1993, to move it from NY to Ecuador, knowing they would likely prevail through various means. Very possibly, bribes of one form or another were offered. But I think there is just no way a pro bono lawyer and a handful of (okay, 30,000) native villagers could have out-bribed Chevron/Texaco. No way.
Of course outright bribery is a violation of the FCPA but…y’know… there’s ways around it. I sincerely believe they stumbled across an actual (or at least, in this case) uncorrupted judge.
It’s pretty ironic that given Texaco’ previous fear of the law in NY, that’s precisely where they have been going after Donziger.
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Eat the rich. Killing may not be enough.
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Mod Note: Please remember that we have a policy here against victim blaming. If you’d like to argue that these megacorps are the ones wronged, please do it on another forum.
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