Like I said, fishing expedition tactics.
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Roll on the widespread adoption of Bayesian stats. They hold the promise of reducing fishing expeditions as repeating a (properly designed) study just firms up the results instead of invalidating it.
Not that I can use them (yet), but thatâs one of my slow-burn background projects at the moment âŚ
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Endure. Tolerate. Suffer in silence.
All of the above to various degrees.
I live in an upper middle class community and see women lining up compete for the attention of high status males for the obvious reasons, and wade through shit mostlyâŚespecially as they get older.
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So youâre saying that some people behave like this, and then extrapolate that to a significant segment of female society? Iâd argue that some people have the values and tendencies you describe, sure - but theyâre noticeable because theyâre unusual.
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What happens when selection bias meets a warped frame of view. Youâre doing more than âobservingâ here. Youâre making a series of faulty assumptions and ignoring the women who donât follow your myopic POV.
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Didnât see a gangpile, saw many different people telling the troll in different ways about the different ways the trolls statement was wrong. Only a few were repetitive.
So if you thought the troll was making good points why donât you do what it couldnât and re-iterate those points in polite terms hmmmâŚ
Why not start with the phrase that got it the ban hammer? You can reference it in the trolls profile.
Please make that case. Politely, that we can rebut you thus.
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Forbesâ Erik Kain provided an interesting response to these articles
If by âinterestingâ you mean âironically humorous.â
Title: More Terrible Journalism Erupts Over New Video Game Sexism Study
First Sentence: Thereâs a new study out that tests whether poor performance in video games leads to a higher rate of sexist comments directed at women. [emphasis added]
Heâs equating the purported correlation found by the study with a causative effect. Thatâs inept science writing.
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I guess there was a bit of this, but I offered them a considered response which met them about halfway on their ideas. And they jumped on my case, putting words in mouth. Maybe their anger caused them to be defensive, but thatâs just the kind of reaction I was hoping to defuse. People who respond with âYou might as well have said THIS, asshole! Because I feel as badly as if you had actually said THIS!â appear to not be honestly engaging.
ETA: People often get the âm9ndfzzpâ easily because I voluntarily take on the mantle Which Exists To Name The Other. I say outright that: âWell, I am a Social Justice Warrior, and this is how I see itâ. This ruins a lot of rhetoric which seeks to label a group of people and quickly characterize them all a certain way. It pops trolley bubbles.
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Yeah, well, but they had already written the press releases about the high frequency of sexist hostility and the causation from loser status. You canât expect them to change the announcement just because their actual results went the opposite way.
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This is the singles crowd, like it or not.
I thought it was an episode of The Roquefort FilesâŚ
Dressed in a little brie for Thora T.
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Sorry, I didnât think you would actually see a lineup in your mind
And yes, there are women who choose to not compete. Thatâs another coping mechanism.
My childrenâs mother is of a type that doesnât want to be looked at, stood beside or otherwise approachedâŚunless itâs by Brad Pitt of course.
And you re one of the rare people to have responded to me without innane stupid gif responses to the effect of âgo fuck yourselfâ. That kind of attitude that Iâve seen is very disturbingly like the people that are being pointed at and going âthey are insufferable fuckwits.â Pushy, Shovey, Dismissive of others, and I just donât like what I see as a favorite spot full of the same type of nonsense. I appreciate the measured response. Stay awesome.
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By that logic every man on a dating site is a loathesome creep and no wonder women seek a greater âvalueâ male. Because my friends certainly have some horror stories about your average respondent.
Your judging of every woman by the worst doesnât reflect poorly on women.
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Itâs the competitive nature of human survival.
Dating sites are a risk to both parties. The risks run from outdated photos to out and out fraud.
I have a wealthy client who insists on going on the free sites and a shit show ensues every time.
I suggest he go to proper introduction services, but he persists.
Itâs off topic, and I was being picky, but:
Hereâs the part of the article to which I was referring:
(Itâs also in keeping with the evolutionary framework on anti-lady hostility, which suggests sexism is a kind of Neanderthal defense mechanism for low-status, non-dominant men trying to maintain a shaky grip on their particular caveâs supply of women.)
It implies to me that the author thinks we are direct descendants of Neanderthals.
The article you reference is from 2006. The current consensus (post a 2011 study) is that we co-existed with neanderthals and the DNA we do have is from interbreeding, and itâs only 1-4%:
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/
The % of âsimilarâ DNA claimed seems to vary, but even a more modern article on the site you referenced suggests they co-existed and interbred, given that Africans donât share any DNA with neanderthals:
My point is that if we co-existed then thereâs no reason to assume they were the root cause of losers being sexist. Unless they discovered zero people of African descent in the same context were sexist?
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I think he actually said a kind of neanderthalâŚpossibly trying to be flowery in his description.
