By far the most popular type of bread (going by stock levels) at my local grocery store is Honey Wheat. I think Americans just like sweeter bread.
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Since we are talking about Ireland, I think chemically leavened bread is still bread. They could hardly claim that their traditional form of bread (soda bread) isn’t bread!
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I’m not sure those kinds of generalisations stack up. There are, for example, approximately one gazillion varieties of apple available … unless you go to any supermarket anywhere, in which case there will be three, maybe four. One of which will be Granny Smith, and another fucking Red Delicious (two lies in one name). At a certain point people give up on pointless battles and just go with what’s familiar, cheap, and readily available, whether that’s apples, bread, or whatever.
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But would the Irish court call it cake 
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It was said once upthread but needs to be said again. Has nobody here been to an Asian bakery? There are whole categories of Chinese and Korean breads that are basically dessert, they are so sweet. But they are 100% bread and nobody would argue that. There’s a lot of gray area between sourdough bread and cake. Subway is nowhere near the cake end of the spectrum, whether you happen to like their bread or not.
Also, all restaurant food is super loaded with salt, sugar, and fat. That’s what makes it good. Just because you like some local bakery’s bread better doesn’t mean it’s healthier. You don’t know much much salt or sugar they put in it.
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Yes. For tax purposes in Ireland Jaffa cakes are also cake. The reason being that they are moister than biscuits. 12% moisture I think.
I read the wiki page! Im not sure if it was litigated or just a revenue decision. No reason to appeal if they give you the beneficial rate.
But why are cakes VAT exempt in the UK? Anyone know?
ETA multiple moisty moistness!
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Not here - seagulls are a protected species.
Not in this household! The breads that pass muster are either homemade bread or Terra Bread products. We occasionally try something else but are often disappointed.
For the ‘bad for you’ category, there is a really amazing Chinese bakery in my old Kerrisdale neighborhood that was both inexpensive and incredibly delicious. Lots of sugar in their baking and very fine white flour. The bread and pastries were often still warm from the ovens. I could buy lunch for under $4.
Ambrosia apples originated here in BC and are the only kind I’ll eat uncooked. They are a Fall apple so should be hitting the markets any day now.
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Somewhat related:
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It never fails, the news runs an expose about how terrible this or that fast food chan is, and the end result is that i crave that chain’s food.
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DHMO.org is doing just that! I have the tee shirt. It really confused a DNR guy at their display at the Wisconsin state fair one year. I’m still not sure he ever figured out it was a joke and I was in on it.
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I never said it was bad - although given the number of countries that have banned it as a food additive over concerns, it might be - I just suggested it might have lent a distinctive smell to it. (Even if it doesn’t smell itself, the byproducts formed during cooking might.)
Well, not legally it isn’t. And although the distinction is, on some level, absurd - I mean, sweet bread is still bread - the massive and completely unnecessary amount of sugar in it indicates something really nasty about their offerings.
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Don’t forget Rudy’s (definitely not to be mistaken with Ruby’s). Sure, it’s just brisket and Wonder Bread, but it’s damn good brisket.
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Great brisket would make an acorn cap sandwich good!
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You’re reading it wrong then. Any position on the chart encompasses all positions to its left and/or top in terms of inclusiveness of definition.
In other words, for a radical sandwich anarchist, everything is a sandwich.
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That has sexual implications. You only wish…
I was waiting just inside a hospital which has a subway at the entrance. It stunk of burning plastic. When my BF finally reappeared, I complained to him about the smell, and he told me it was subway, baking their bread. I told him my mom had baked hundreds of loaves of all sorts of bread, and they never ever smelled like burning plastic. Just thinking about it is headache-inducing.
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Brief off-topic thingy:
An early, and not at all serious English dictionary defined an eclair as, “A cake, long in shape, but short in duration.” XD
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Hmmmm, sweetbreads…
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