Just leaving this here for you guys
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My Canadian girlfriend will love this!
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Yeah, I’ve read Eichmann in Jerusalem, but only have skimmed Origins of Totalitarianism, and then that was a while ago.
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I only have this to say to @abdada:
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I could suggest that the sort of person who inspires snooping is this sort of person that offers or uses this service, but that would be stooping to victim blaming, so I won’t.
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Oh. My.
The implications of that are… staggering…
…but very, very droll.
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In Dada’s defense, I feel that anyone who believes this service is worth $6/month to them is 100% correct. This is a perfect example of the market functioning.
To balance that point, though - oh my god that soul patch!
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I can out-squint that: I listened to it unabridged on audiobook just a couple years ago. All giant pile of it. And retain very little except that totalitarianism is one of those self-healing memes that only have their particular vitality during a particularly specific time, when mass communication is in no danger of whelm from non-central information, much less the over part. That wasn’t her message but that’s what I had decided by the end of it.
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Hello,
First of all, a few disclaimers: I am not affiliated with this dickhead, nor am I one to haunt 4chan. Also, I am not responding to any post in particular.
I notice when Cultural Marxism is made mention of, the typical response is what I would categorize as “thought stopping” that is, mockery and funny little eye-rolling, gifs, stuff like that.
Confession: Actually, this is exactly what we expect.
I’m not trolling, mocking, baiting, etc… I am genuinely interested in why this is the mode of discourse for many of you. The Frankfurt School was a real thing, Critical Theory is a real thing.
What taught you to respond in this manner? It’s so uniform, it cannot be a coincidence.
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From the New Statesman
The “cultural Marxism” that Breivik blamed for Europe’s Muslim takeover is a conspiracy theory that was born in the US. It contends that a small group of Marxist philosophers associated with the Frankfurt school of critical theory plotted to destroy western civilisation by encouraging multiculturalism, homosexuality and collectivist economic ideas.
Although many don’t realise it today, the theory is anti-Semitic in origin and its early proponents emphasized that these philosophers were all Jewish. Breivik’s lengthy “manifesto” devotes an entire section to profiling Theodor Adorno, Herbert Marcuse and other Frankfurt school thinkers.
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Thats is the genetic fallacy.
I’m sure Brevik rode in a car once. I would wager a brick to London that you have ridden in a car too, this hardly makes you a murderer or anti-Semite.
I’m not in this thread to argue, but to inquire, trolley mode off.
I appreciate your answer.
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It’s more F’d up than that. I remember my conservative parents justifying their demands that I stay abstinent before marriage with probably the most brain-dead argument I’ve ever heard. Basically that if I’m abstinent, and my “perfect wife god chose for me” stays abstinent, then we don’t have any prior experience to contrast each other sexually against, and (here’s the kicker) therefore, we couldn’t possibly be disappointed with each other’s performance sexually. If you get to play around and sew some wild oats, you (gasp) might know that you’re partner’s terrible at having sex and has a weird set of genitals or whatever.
Literally ignorance is bliss. They started in on this tack when I was maybe eleven years old (I’m male by the way).
Ass, what Christholes.
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Why do you even have a “troll” mode?
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The Marxists Markists over at BoingBoing…
I could see how it could be confusing…I personally prefer the term Frauenfelderists. 
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As Cardinal Richelieu may or may not have said:
If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.
I know that people can claim some my political views are Cultural Marxist. You could also claim I was a Tory because some of my collectivist-anarchist views superficially sound a little like David Cameron’s Big Society. It doesn’t make it true.
I won’t deny that the Frankfurt school has had an indirect influence on me, but I don’t accept it as a whole. I mean, Margaret Thatcher had an influence on me and I reject Thatcherism in its entirety. I came to my views after listening to and reading works by people of various different political views.
As for the people who are accusing us of cultural marxism, even the more “moderate” ones send alarm bells ringing in my head about my personal safety.
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Sometimes I feel lucky I was only brought up as liberal Church of England. Even that left its scars though.
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I can’t find a coherent definition of “Cultural Marxism.”
Wiki has no entry and redirects to Marxism.
Rational Wiki seems to have the clearest explanation, and that description sounds like a dogwhistle for crackpots to me.
Metapedia (is that site even credible?), has this lovely definition
Cultural Marxism or Cultural Bolshevism (degenerate culture) seeks to destroy everything good about a society, what holds it together, what helps it to advance, what promotes intelligence and beauty. It seeks to degenerate society and take it to a lower form where people are less intelligent and more animal. It’s based on the Marxist lie that everything good about society is all a form of oppression.
Urban dictionary is similar.
Are you saying I (we) want to destroy everything good in the world? Now that’s a trolley’s opinion.
So, yes, when folks want to use a poorly defined phrase to classify and pigeon-hole the other side of a debate, I eye-roll.
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Marxists and other left wing groups usually refer to it as Western Marxism, but I don’t think that is what it means in this context.
It is mostly used as a dogwhistle for the reactionaries, who seem to say “Cultural Marxism” instead of Identity Politics.
Having seen what the reactionaries are like (even the “moderates”), I think I’ll take my chances with the “Marxists”.
For good read christian or religious. It’s not true (see what the left wing in Britain thinks of the Diggers, or John Ball), but that’s never stopped vicious rumours before.
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You caught us, we’re actually one person! @OtherMichael, @anon61221983, @funruly, @ChuckV, the jig is up!
Of course, you’ll note I just did exactly what you accused us of doing, rolling my eyes and making a joke instead of taking on a comment seriously. But read that line you wrote, how could someone take that seriously? After saying you aren’t here to trolley, you throw out an almost incomprehensible implication.
If you find that people tend to roll their eyes at you when you say things, it might be that the non-coincidence is you and the way you choose to express yourself.
When someone calls BoingBoing collectively “Marxist” it makes us laugh because that’s like if someone called us “gay”. Some of the people posting here are gay, some are not, and none of us (I hope!) think that’s a bad thing anyway.
Regarding Cultural Marxism, I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. As others have pointed out, the descriptions of it I can find online are pretty much that it is a synonym for “bad” used by hardline right-wingers. If it is a meaningful political philosophy and my ideas happen to align with it then someone can go ahead and call me a Cultural Marxist any time.
(Also, the person who is quoted as calling us Marxist, you may note, came into the thread to say he is just a profiteer. He’s just saying things to sell shirts. If we roll our eyes, he’s in on the joke [which for him is on the people giving him money])
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Speak for yourself. I, myself, am a Schizzantologist. Praise Xeni!
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