Take the test to see which political quadrant you inhabit

Ok finally someone who got a different result (than the left libertarians). Dustin_Dopps, do you find your result to conform to your conception of yourself and do you see your views conforming with the example politicians that lined up near you?

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Something else.

Most of these political compass tests are designed to convince soft lefties that they’re actually libertarians.

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See my comment above. Glenys Kinnock is not a libertarian by any definition.

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The quiz is still designed to place reasonable and educated Westerners in the bottom two quadrants. It’s not clear if Kinnock designed the quiz.

Meanwhile, Libertarian sites point to the quiz and cite it all the damn time, although in practise the kind of people who take it seldom end up in the bottom right quadrant.

It’s more the context of her fellow quadrant residents (in particular two new additions since I last took it years ago) that makes it feel off.

Exactly. Most liberals and progressives are socially libertarian, but capital-L Libertarians like to reduce it back to a two-dimensional spectrum after the quiz, and say “see, you’re a Libertarian, too, man!”

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I didn’t bother looking at the “famous people” grid. So I can’t answer that. But I definitely have the opinion that the Boing Boing comments are a bit echo-chambery. So I knew my result would be different than most everyone else.

I’m religious and grew up in Kansas, but have lived in the Portland metro area for the past 17 years. So I think that my beliefs are a healthy mix of “Flyover State” and “Pacific NW Weird.” :slight_smile:

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Fixed that for you (tip o’ the nib to @beschizza) :

And, by the bye:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. de Cleyre, Kropotkin, Reclús, and le Guin

(Yeah, yeah, yeah. de Cleyre, Kropotkin, Reclús, and le Guin…)

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Oh just kickin it with Goldman and Kropotkin.

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Libertarian? I’m a goddam socialist liberal!

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Chart sez I basically am Kropotkin.

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I mean, no surprise where I am, left -8.88, libertarian -6.67. But I ain’t no goddamned libertarian!

I think a libertarian vs. authoritarian axis can only exist with with a huge amount of equivocation. In practice, libertarian and authoritarian are extremely similar and the opposite of both is a social-democrat style of democracy where people both 1) trust the government; and 2) don’t take shit from political parties that do a bad job in government.

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Just don’t call yourself a Libertarian. That’s like a 4 letter word. :confused:

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These are trick questions. Sometimes two statements in one:

“Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation.”

A real authoritarian would stop answering this questionaire after the first page. I bet it was a green-fielder who formulated the questions. :slight_smile:

PS. I placed a bit right of Gandhi.

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A real authoritarian would have to check with their leader to see whether to fill the test out or not, and what to say on it.

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Looks like there’s enough of us for a big party down in that bottom left corner. I’m:
Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.08

But I wouldn’t get hung up on the “libertarian label”. This particular grid is a devolved version of the more robust hierarchical-egalitarian and individualist-communitarian poles (and by “more robust”, I mean it has stronger test-retest reliability). The bottom left corner would be better labelled as “egalitarian”, rather than Left/Libertarian, especially as, in the US at least, the term libertarian has been hijacked by people who are definitely not egalitarian.
E.g. see http://changingminds.org/explanations/culture/grid-group_culture.htm

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Hah, about the same for me.
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You hadn’t seen this before, Mark?

I’m surprised, it’s been around online since 2001. So, 10k congratulations.

It hasn’t changed much since 2001. The questions are mostly the same, they just update some of the data from time to time. It’s not broken, so they don’t fix it.

I think you’re thinking of the Nolan chart.. That one really was just a series of leading questions serving as a recruiting device for the US propertarians. This compass tries to be more even handed, but I suspect that it will still skew towards small-l libertarian views, because I think they cribbed a chunk of their authoritarian / libertarian scale from the F-scale, which is perhaps a bit out of date.

Anyway, for what it’s worth, here’s mine.
Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.44
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I always say that my result mainly shows that I like the “strongly disagree” button.

Also, I’m sure that there are quite a few things that don’t show up on that chart that would split those of us in the quadrant down further. Some of which would be subtle refinements to these two axes and some of which would be entirely orthogonal to these.

One such issue that the website points out is Brexit- There are pro and anti factions all over the chart there, which might have made it harder to predict the result, as it couldn’t be broken down to these known postions and coalitions.

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The quiz was created in the run up to the 2001 UK General Election (and the site probably hasn’t had a redesign since). The most prominent organisation who identified as libertarian in Britain at the time were the WOMBLES.

Hardly the sort of people in favour of capitalism.

I still have the quiz that I did back then on Dreamwidth (it used to be on LJ, but I moved it when everyone else did). The questions are still the same, but my answers aren’t.

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Looks like we in the lower left corner are in good company. I think I can see Papasan from here.

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It’s from the older meaning of libertarian. Today’s libertarian is more properly called propertarian since they see property rights as the ultimate expression of individual rights. It’s grossly reductive on their part but sadly people tend to make such mistakes when it comes to political theory. :frowning:

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