Taliban bans the sound of womens' voices singing or reading

Originally published at: Taliban bans the sound of womens' voices singing or reading - Boing Boing

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…and they wonder why that backwater has no tourism.

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When one is a joyless loser, the only fulfillment in life comes from imposing misery on others.

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As always, the people who made this law are definitely willing to make an exception “as long as you sing for me, baby.”

They just can’t stand the thought of a woman singing for anyone else to hear.

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That’s not true.

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lets stay here! https://www.nzz.ch/english/inside-the-intercontinental-in-kabul-the-luxury-hotel-run-by-the-taliban-ld.1756704

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Man, the last several decades of Afghanistan’s history are pretty fucking tragic. I do no understand why or how the Taliban, who was out of power for 20 years, just rolled back in with pretty much no resistance from anyone. I guess I should go learn more about it. At least from what I have seen about Kabul, most people were not fine with Taliban control. :confused:

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Short answer: the government was weak and corrupt, while the army was weak and corrupt, and dependent on US air power and logistical support that it no longer had.

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A great deal of that was thanks to the incompetence of the afgan army. For one example; the US spent tens of millions of dollars developing a camouflage pattern for the afgan army uniform, one of the head guys in charge of that army hated how the pattern looked and threw it out in favor of a significantly less effective pattern.

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I know people who served in Afghanistan and they all had a very low opinions of like 95% of the people in the army, with basically zero discipline or professionalism. (Though they spoke highly of the translators, who we shafted). Still, when they roll back in and you have weapons to stop them before they make your life a living hell… I guess most of the 20 somethings wouldn’t have had any memories of Taliban rule. Maybe they thought it would be the same shit, different day, different assholes in charge.

I dunno.

You would think with the way the place is awash in weapons, you would have a robust underground, but I dunno.

It’s just incredibly frustrating seeing this level of Theocratic, tyrannical rule.

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Isn’t this part of Project 2025?

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There is a robust underground, just not the one that we would want.

The Islamic State – Khorasan Province [a] (ISIS–K, IS–K, IS–KP) is a regional branch of the Salafi jihadist group Islamic State (IS) active in South-Central Asia, primarily Afghanistan and Pakistan. ISIS–K seeks to destabilize and replace current governments within the historic Khorasan region with the goal of establishing a caliphate across South and Central Asia, governed under a strict interpretation of Islamic sharia law, which they plan to expand beyond the region.

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It bewilders me that Americans will shake their heads at the absurdity of this without recognizing that it’s the same attitude a huge subset of Americans espouse, just taken a bit further.

It’s the same “it is 100% the responsibility of women to avoiding doing/saying/wearing anything that might distract men or tempt them away from the virtue which is obviously their natural state, and there is zero expectation that men can or should have to be responsible for controlling their own behavior” nonsense that gets espoused by a worryingly large subset of Americans.

“Well, what did she expect, going out at night dressed like that?!”

“Oh, she was way too forward with him.”

“Well of course she keeps getting passed up for promotions. The way she keeps disagreeing with her manager in meetings is totally emasculating! She’s lucky she still has a job!”

“We can’t allow her to come to school dressed like that- it’s distracting to the other students.”

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Taking notes furiously…

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The GOP is going to be so envious. And to be clear, this is not meant to be funny. The specifics may be more intrusive than our own conservatives, but seeing some of what’s in Project 2025 makes it clear they’d love to go to this level.

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Someone do a Venn diagram of Project 2025 and Taliban cultural policy. I have a feeling that the overlap there will be pretty much a circle. In which case, the language of the Taliban will be a useful translation in case any Americans are in denial about the policies.

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I am not a historian, but maybe someone else with more knowledge can speak to this: could the US have better supported Afghanistan against the Taliban takeover? Do we bear some responsibility here?

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I mean, if you are looking for responsibility, there is the fact that the US supported the Taliban against the Soviets in the first place. A lot of the most regressive movements in the world happened because imperialist powers kicked the legs out from under everyone else.

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