Texas lawmakers want Death Penalty for women who get abortions

I’m not barred in Texas, and I don’t practice criminal law, but I wonder if Texas’s “Stand Your Ground” law could be used as a defense to this?

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I’ve also thought that it is an outward show of pioussness meant to prove one’s adherence to a certain ideal of womanhood.

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Texass isn’t the only state trying to push the issue to the supremes, altho from what I’ve read they’re the only ones with this insane language about “any” abortion being murder.
My wife and I suffered a full term delivery of a still born. In the last 24 hours the baby was so active, she managed to wrap the cord around her neck and bruise it badly. This was 45 years ago and we still mourn the loss.

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Uhm, yeah, so, go ahead on and move your 21st century technology company to Texas. Would love to be in on some strategy meetings of the recruiters.

How exactly is it that the Republicans can gerrymander out women’s votes?

They are eager to bring it to the Supreme Court so that Kavanaugh can bless it, because he likes beer.

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I wish for once, repubes would read the entire fucking bible and not just “the good parts”. Especially the part about you treat Jesus the way you treat the least among us.

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My wife and I had pretty much the exact same scenario play out with what would have been our firstborn, sans IVF, and sans medieval treatment. When our child was confirmed dead, and yet no miscarriage was happening, medications were pursued, fruitlessly, then because we live in CA, we spent a day at a very shwanky So. Cal. fertility hospital where the procedure was performed. The doctors and nurses were all aware of the situation, and treated us very compassionately. It took some time, but we later had Girlchild, who is doing quite well.

Just goes to show that if you don’t involve religious based shame in a situation where it absofuckinglutely should not apply anyway, that people can be treated with care and compassion…

Also on a side note, I’ve been assured that Texas isn’t all that bad because Austin right?..
I’m beginning to doubt that.

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Or especially all the parts that make it clear (within the context of the bible and the religion that relies on it; just because it suits my purposes in this case I’m not going to grant it exceptional consideration as our government should be secular) life begins when the baby takes its first breath.

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I doubt we would have pursued it if it wasn’t legal. I imagine the last two options wouldn’t have been offered and we would have been made to needlessly suffer. Or something in between where we would be harassed, like the parent comment, or forced to travel and seek out the procedure further away and more difficult to access.

The whole time it happened I was grateful for the support and deference we were given by everyone knowing that a lot of people don’t always have a supportive spouse, money, or medical services to help them through. It frustrates me that there’s such a strong effort to make these things more difficult.

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I’m not a fan of that tactic. It would be outing women for having made a choice that is no one else’s business, whether they’re the lawmakers in question or not. It would be 99% men who would be guilty by association with a woman who’s had an abortion.

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Yeah, cause it still doesnt centralize the woman as having a voice to Express what restitution might be for her. It’s still a legal system and a husband deciding for her.

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Or in larger rez, for folks who wanna make stickers:

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Call it what it is – an attempt to impose Christian Sharia in the United States.

Pregnant women seeking an abortion consider Texas lawmakers statements as death threats, and so have the right to shoot said lawmakers in their own defense?

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Pretty much means the law will have to treat having sex as attempted murder. :-/

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@HMSGoose

“Control of women’s bodies” in no way excludes other women from enacting and regenerating such control.

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But only as long as they put out and don’t get knocked up.

Which still leaves one very large, ugly loophole: what happens when GOP members start displaying symptoms of STIs?

And voting for war actions… and taking any part in sentencing or making things illegal and subject to imprisonment in a system which does not honor its duty of care and has murders and negligence-caused deaths at any frequency.

Just wait until they institute their proposed law on the sin of onan, since each sperm is potentially a life just waiting to happen…

NEWSFLASH!!! 14 year old Timmy O’Riordan was found with evidence under his bed that he’s the most prolific killer since Stalin! Police seized a crusty sock as evidence. More news at 11!

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Not to mention how state “A” where abortion is legal would handle any extradition requests in cases where a woman who got an abortion in Texas later “escapes” to state “A”. Things could get weirder if a Texan gets a legal out-of-state abortion then comes back to Texas. What then (given that what’s legal or not may be totally malleable in Texas given the politics)?

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