I dunno that they’d go that hardcore detective story on it. Though that would be cool.
But I don’t generally worry about the creative team and cast here. I just have very little trust in DC.
That was very much tongue in cheek.
But part of the reason I never much got into Beyond is that it’s basically a Dick Grayson or Tim Drake story that’s clearly been tweaked to add 90’s XSTREAM and avoid any continuity issues involved with actually using Dick Grayson or Tim Drake.
It’s that story that should have happened elsewhere, comics or what have. And sorta half hearted did, but not as well.
That makes it very interesting feed stock for films though. Cause practically speaking you’re never really going to get through like 6 different god damn Robins, and Batgirl. And while you could definitely make kid side kick work, transitioning the role stretches suspension of disbelief a lot less than doing that over and over. So Beyond offers a nice framework for doing that for your choice of Robins. Combining elements from the different story lines, or even skipping that and going with Terry without the it’s the future framing. No need to get into complications based on introduce, train up, now he’s Night Wing, but wait he’s back and he’s gonna be Batman now. But NO! he isn’t!
I just re-watched the 1989 Batman movie for the first time in a while. I always forget just how many people Batman straight-up murders. Probably dozens killed in the scene where he blows up Axis Chemicals alone.
You know, you kinda reminded me that I already got the Batman/Bruce Wayne I wanted, with Titans (the live action series). Iain Glen nailed it. Even if his Bruce was mostly just in Dick’s head (and I thought Brenton Thwaites made an excellent Dick Greyson).
No there was absolutely a commercial for Batman Returns featuring the bat credit card. A lot of the cross promotional deals would escalate to product placement later. And it all just got balder and balder. There’s a lot of dudes getting casually mirked by like Batman’s car in returns.
And all of those villains chew scenery like Nic Cage on a good day.
Thing is it’s not too much, there’s other stuff going on, and it’s all nested in an aesthetic where that makes sense.
Schumacher made the ad campaign the movie and locked it all up in a disco nightmare. All that was left was the camp.
OK but I don’t think we can necessarily pin that part on Tim Burton. His movies were pretty solid (especially the first one), but when Schumacher took over the franchise he turned it into an embarrassing unwatchable mess.
