Fair enough. I’m with you there.
FTFY
That was one nimrod. Obviously, most folks weren’t on board with that idea, since nobody used it. Unfortunately, the lunatic got the press’s attention.
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The majority of this crowd were also notably unconcerned by this guy, posing for his gun pr0n, and pointing his bang-stick at the five oh.[/quote]
Please look back at the picture in Xeni’s OP. The vast majority of the crowd is in front of this guy’s gun, face-to-face with the BLM on the ground. This guy is a significant distance back from “the front line” with what appears to be something like a half-dozen people. I have no reason to think that the other hundreds of protesters were even aware that this guy was back there doing a photoshoot.
FTFY 
Even if a picture -can- tell a falsehood, these pictures, all of them, tell a combined story of jackassery on the part of dozens of my fellow citizens, with plenty of context for me to be appalled.
True, there are reasons to be appalled. I was only trying to say that I don’t think that most of these people are crazy, just some of them.
Isn’t it just adorable that the white supremacist antisemites are essentially following the agenda of the Koch brothers, who together would top Forbe’s list of the world’s wealthiest Jews? Fighting the imaginary puppetmasters put them in the service of the real thing.
http://www.jspace.com/news/articles/forbes-billionaires-the-richest-jews-in-the-world/13165
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I think they were too busy posting ‘RON PAUL SAVE US’ to the boards we never visit.
Try living life without a car, and that statement might not ring quite as true.
Sure, and Musashi killed 60 men with a katana, and Bin Laden killed 3000 with a few boxcutters and some jets; what’s your point?
I personally don’t give a hoot about cattle. We have too much cattle already. Cheap, shitty, beef. After grazing these on public lands for free, he’ll probably send them to the cheapest feed lot and slaughter house, where they will suffer in filth before being killed while in a state of panic and stress. He has no good points.
I can understand people here being mad at the BLM or even at Bundy. But why so much anger at the cows?
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Apparently, and, no I don’t follow these sorts of conspiracy theories, the wealth of the Rothschild family is “conservatively” estimated at $500 trillion dollars. These estimates are always described as “conservative”, which tends to imply (libelously or not) something about the character of conservatism.
These estimates assume that investment risk is fictional, so it’s wise to assume that these estimates are equally fictional.
love love love the wisdom of IvanC! 
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Sorry, I don’t really hate the cows. I just don’t put them above the desert turtle, especially on the turtle’s turf. I actually feel sad for the cows. And cheap as in ‘the most corners cut to make as much weight as possible with no concerns as to health of the animal or those that consume it’. It wouldn’t kill us if beef went back to being a once a week meal. In fact it would probably save millions from heart disease and death. That is if they choose to replace it with fresh, local (where possible), food. And it would support local growers and businesses, keeping money and taxes in their own area… the ‘virtuous cycle’ might just get out of control. 
If you can get someone else to assume liability in the case of failure, then the investment risk is fictional. See: most recent financial meltdown.
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Mmm… I do like cattle products… I don’t know if Bundy’s end up at Taco BelI or Morton’s nor do I find it relevant I guess. I don’t expect (or want) everyone to like beef, but I do think they have been more useful to humanity over the centuries then the desert tortoise has. Otherwise we’d be reading about the BLM rounding up Bundy’s trespass tortoise for the sake of protecting the desert cow.
As it stands now, I think the rising beef prices reflect that there is not enough cattle to meet demand.
I like beef. And it’s even better when it isn’t fed corn until it’s about ready to die itself. Knee jerk reaction to anyone calling for better, more humanely raised, beef is to respond like they are some anti-meat vegetarian. I am not. I just see the results of shitty, “cheap” food every day at my job. Never argued that cattle were not useful. There are plenty of unhealthy foods I enjoy, but giving into that at every meal is childish, and why we have so many unhealthy people taxing the EMS and health system.
The rising price of beef reflects the rising price of energy. It takes a lot of energy to raise the same number of cattle as they did yesterday, even when all the possible corners are cut to make it cheaper. Poverty and famine are usually more about politics than anything else. Agribusiness will tell you “we can’t feed the world without our practices”. What they mean is “We can’t get the entire world eating ONLY our products sold through our mega business, without these practices”. If you love Taco Bell or McDonalds, good for you. I don’t, and I don’t love the fact that the system that supports them is dependent on killing off any local, healthy option.
It all boils down to humanity as a whole needs to grow the fuck up. A child wants sweets and candy and taco bell for every meal. A child wants everything, more, more, more, now, now, now. And kids are fascinated by guns. It goes BANG! It magically knocks over the can at 50 yards! But growing up means no Crunch Wrap topped with Skittles for every meal, and that guns are not toys. Bummer, huh?
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yeah. Solar power or something. or maybe Indian Casinos…in Nevada.
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Fair enough. (I didn’t use the V-word by the way…) I think we could probably argue all day while actually agreeing on a lot of the top level points.
I will try the Rainbow Crunch Wrap Supreme on your recommendation (much to my disappointment BB will not let me upload the picture of a burrito with skittles I spent 20 seconds making.) and since I devolved from intellectual discussion to trying to post funny pictures… must be time to get off the internet.
Please post some more. I find your postcards from Muriburiland both fascinating and educational.
The gun nuts are viewed as nuts because they’re threatening to murder people over semantics. The wording of the Nevada constitution means that Bundy is guarenteed to lose any case that reaches the Nevada courts, excepting a procedural error from the Feds. It’s maybe fortunate that the BLM folks backed down for the moment, rather than precipitating a blood bath. Yet I can’t see the Nevada court making any judgement other than in favour of BLM. So then there’ll be a precedent which will finish the issue.
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